Gladiator X: There will be blood

[Spaced Cowboy]

I'm good with 100 each.

[EPW]

Semi-Final Matches

Theben vs. Spacius Maximus
The Doctor vs. Ludd

[snoopy369]

How about ((W1-A2)+20)*3 + 40 ?

0/20 vs 0/20 gives you 40.
10/10 vs 0/20 gives you 70.
10/10 vs 10/10 gives you 100.
20/0 vs 10/10 gives you 130.
20/0 vs 20/0 gives you 160.

You could also increase the multiplier to 4 and increase this range (to 40-200 centered on 120).

In these matchups, Spike/Ludd would have 100 while Spaced/Theben would have 118.

[DrSpike]

Originally posted by snoopy369
I understand that, i'm just not sure if I agree that it's a problem

Well it is. Partly it's practical, because of dual running of semis, partly it's to ensure a fitting fight, because no one wants a semi to be over in 1 or 2 rounds after all that pre-amble (or indeed to last forever with 2 20As), and partly it's equity to ensure that the people in the final haven't just fluked one lucky round.

[DrSpike]

Originally posted by snoopy369
How about ((W1-A2)+20)*3 + 40 ?

0/20 vs 0/20 gives you 40.
10/10 vs 0/20 gives you 70.
10/10 vs 10/10 gives you 100.
20/0 vs 10/10 gives you 130.
20/0 vs 20/0 gives you 160.

You could also increase the multiplier to 4 and increase this range (to 40-200 centered on 120).

In these matchups, Spike/Ludd would have 100 while Spaced/Theben would have 118.

That's a really good effort actually, but a couple of picky points:

1) Need to round for elegance
2) The extremes have been accentuated a touch too much. I don't think HP should ever be below 50 even for 0/20 v 0/20. And 160 is too much even for two 20/0 players. We have used as high as 150 in the past though.

But pretty solid - 100 looks right for me and Ludd, and SC/Theben probably do need a few more points. 120 looks about right for effective bonus of 6.

How about ((W1-A2)+20)*2.5 + 50?

Theben/SC come out at 115 this way - though we could round to nearest 10 if people think that 5s are too unwieldy.

[EPW]

hmmm, there is no reason for the 20 to be in the parenthesis.

3(W1-A2)+100 or 2.5(W1-A2) + 100 seem reasonable.

Edit: Actually 2.5 seems perfect.

[DrSpike]

Fair point.

And yeah 2.5 has the best characteristics.

[snoopy369]

Indeed, I just put it in the parens to make it more obvious what I was doing (bringing 0/20 0/20 back to zero).

[Theben]

Nice formula.

I don't think it's necessary to follow that to the hilt, though it could be used to give a good idea where we should start from. In the end whatever the gladiators themselves agree on should be what's done.

Obviously for Doc/Ludd 100 is fine, as for me & Spaced, I'm partial to either 100 or 120. Any other number would seem strange, and +3 to hit, +6 power between us isn't that much. There'll probably be a bit more defense involved in our matches to compensate (assuming 100).

[General Ludd]

Are we fighting to the death now instead of just 2 rounds?

[Theben]

[DrSpike]

Originally posted by General Ludd
Are we fighting to the death now instead of just 2 rounds?

Yes, but don't worry I'll be gentle.

[General Ludd]

Originally posted by snoopy369
Hitting Ludd is HARD. Frankly I think it's easier to go up against a 20/0 player than a 0/20 player... I screwed up the first round (obviously) and had a basically impossible task in the second, since all he had to do was 0/33/0 0/33/0 0/34/0 and then in order to hit, at 8/12 (-6 to attack/-12 to power), I had to have something like 40/0/10 in order to hit at all - which of course does not do any damage; so I had to hope he screwed up and didn't do 0/33/0. Unfortunately, Ludd is not a complete moron

Against you, it may be slightly easier... We'll see.

Incidentally, my orders for the first round where random.

[EPW]

Does everyone agree on 100 and 120?

[General Ludd]

Sure, I don't really care. It's more a question of how much work you might have to do than anything else.