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  • #46
    You and Spike are ignoring the point. Gamespot gives negative reviews, and many of its reviews are in line with other major sites.

    This in no way disproves the common sense notion that Gamespot is influenced by ad money.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Asher


      False -- most ads aren't from game publishers.
      Huh? Prove this?

      They make a significant amount of money from them because the site is ****ing peppered with game ads. I'd imagine you wouldn't know this since you have ****ing Adblock on normally.

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      • #48
        [QUOTE] Originally posted by Asher


        I hope to learn from others.


        You really think youre going to learn more about games here in OG than in the forums on sites devoted to all kinds of gaming (as opposed to Civ)? You've pointed out a site you post to (Beyond3d, I think it was), that has many developers, etc. What would you expect to find here?
        "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Asher

          I don't see any heavily advertised games right now to check. Do you?

          As you know, I'd already checked. You chastised me on that, too. Make up your mind.
          They pulled some kayne and lynch ads for obvious reasons.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Asher

            It just gets in the way of real conversation.
            You consider insults part of real conversation?
            "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Wiglaf
              Huh? Prove this?
              Check yourself. Upwards of 80% are non-game ads when I look.
              "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
              Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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              • #52
                Originally posted by lord of the mark


                You consider insults part of real conversation?
                Where did I insult you?
                "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Asher


                  Check yourself. Upwards of 80% are non-game ads when I look.
                  Amazing.

                  http://cache.kotaku.com/assets/resources/2007/11/kane_lynch_gamespot.jpg


                  Yep, games aren't a big part of ad revenue at all.

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                  • #54
                    [QUOTE] Originally posted by lord of the mark
                    Originally posted by Asher


                    I hope to learn from others.


                    You really think youre going to learn more about games here in OG than in the forums on sites devoted to all kinds of gaming (as opposed to Civ)? You've pointed out a site you post to (Beyond3d, I think it was), that has many developers, etc. What would you expect to find here?
                    I don't learn much in this particular subforum, this falls into the category of me contributing what I do know about.

                    That said, I learn about other games I haven't played yet.
                    "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                    Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Wiglaf


                      Amazing.

                      http://cache.kotaku.com/assets/resources/2007/11/kane_lynch_gamespot.jpg


                      Yep, games aren't a big part of ad revenue at all.
                      You said they don't make money without game publishers buying ads. This is false. Patently so.

                      Yes, you can buy featured ads. Right now I've got a similar full-page ad for Mountain Dew. which game do they make?
                      "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                      Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Asher


                        You said they don't make money without game publishers buying ads. This is false. Patently so.
                        ?
                        Right, game publishers are not their only advertiser. I never claimed they were. Use those reading skills you rail on about

                        Game publishers pump hundreds of thousands of dollars into them. Fact..

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Wiglaf


                          Right, game publishers are not their only advertiser. I never claimed they were. Use those reading skills you rail on about
                          You said exactly that, then you edited it out:
                          Gamespot doesn't make ad money unless it makes publishers happy. True or false.


                          This is a universal qualifier.
                          "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                          Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                          • #58
                            You're bickering over semantics. I've clearly shown they make a lot of money from the game makers they review. Not ALL of their money, fine. Whatever. It doesn't affect the argument.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Wiglaf
                              You're bickering over semantics. I've clearly shown they make a lot of money from the game makers they review. Not ALL of their money, fine. Whatever. It doesn't affect the argument.
                              Seeing as most of the ads aren't games, and given Gamespot's long record of being harsher than their peers on reviews also doesn't support your argument.

                              As I said, it's possible, but it's not proven or even the most likely explanation IMO.
                              "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                              Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Asher
                                It's looking more like he was fired for not playing the game all the way through, actually. Legally Gamespot can't say why he was fired, but if you look at Jeff's XBL profile (GameSpotting), you can see he only played about 20% of the way through the game.

                                Combined with recent suspicious reviews like GameSpot's Assassin's Creed review (where it looked like they didn't play the game the full way through, hence saying the PS3 version didn't have framerate problems which only occur near the end), I don't think it's unlikely that they made an example out of him.
                                I read his review and also watched the video.

                                I played Kane & Lynch, he took the words right out of my mouth, his review was spot on.

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