The Mass Effect Thread

[Guynemer]

Originally posted by DrSpike
You remember Kotor right? In essence the renegade (dark side) choices have you being a total jerk to almost everyone right from the start, and it's not as fulfilling as playing normally in my view. You can rationalise some of the ruthless choices made as for the greater good (because the paragon often risks everyone to save the few) but a lot of the time you are just needlessly being an ass.

No, I get how I'd change; what I'm wondering is how the game changes. Are there different side quests that pop up? For instance, can you assist Cerberus, instead of bringing them down?

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by DrSpike
You remember Kotor right? In essence the renegade (dark side) choices have you being a total jerk to almost everyone right from the start, and it's not as fulfilling as playing normally in my view. You can rationalise some of the ruthless choices made as for the greater good (because the paragon often risks everyone to save the few) but a lot of the time you are just needlessly being an ass.

Renegade choices in ME are much better done than Dark Side in KOTOR. The "oh you're a bully" element occasionally pops up still, but not too often.

And even when being a bully, the dialogue is usually worth it

[Kuciwalker]

Re: My belated thoughts on the game

Originally posted by DrSpike
It is really good and I enjoyed it a lot. The main thing is the story is very detailed and this adds to the immersion. The voice acting is also top notch though, which contributes a lot. The class/skill system is intuitive and interesting whilst also being very accessible.

However, the game as a whole doesn't live up the (amazingly high) standard of the first 5-10 hours or so. The core story and missions are excellent but are only about 10-15 hours in total. A lot of the later game is spent doing side quests on non-descript planets and they do get a little tedious. In contrast, Kotor's sidequests were never boring.

I agree, and I think the real problem is that there's only one real planet, the Citadel. None of the others offer nearly as much NPC interaction. In KOTOR you could spend ages on Manaan (my favorite planet), and most of it wouldn't be pure dungeon crawling.

[Guynemer]

Just finished. ****ing outstanding. Can't wait to do it again.

[DrSpike]

Originally posted by Guynemer


No, I get how I'd change; what I'm wondering is how the game changes. Are there different side quests that pop up? For instance, can you assist Cerberus, instead of bringing them down?

There are a couple of different quests (not sure on exact numbers as haven't finished my renegade playthrough yet) but mainly it's different outcomes to existing quests.

[DrSpike]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker


Renegade choices in ME are much better done than Dark Side in KOTOR. The "oh you're a bully" element occasionally pops up still, but not too often.

And even when being a bully, the dialogue is usually worth it

The dialogue is better I agree, but aside from the decisions that are in line with the ruthless personality of the renegade there's far too many instances of needlessly being an ass for my taste.

Perhaps I am less used to that than you and Asher.

[DrSpike]

Originally posted by Guynemer
Just finished. ****ing outstanding. Can't wait to do it again.

[DrSpike]

In other news I just read on the TeamXbox forums that Mass Effect sold 1.6 million in only 6 weeks.

Cue Asher to point out that's more than the sum total of every Wii game or something like that.

[vovan]

Originally posted by DrSpike
Cue Asher to point out that's more than the sum total of every Wii PS3 game or something like that.

Fixed

[DrSpike]

That's not a good fix.

[Heraclitus]

There is soo going to be a PC port, with those sales figures.

[DrSpike]

Yes, around about the time I'm enjoying Mass Effect part 2.

[vovan]

Originally posted by DrSpike
That's not a good fix.

How come?

I know Asher thinks Wiis are gimmicky, but if you are talking sales numbers... It has outsold the PS3... Hell, the PS2 has outsold the PS3 over the holidays.

[DrSpike]

Wii software sales haven't been strong, even for the flagship titles.

[vovan]

Huh. Shows how much I know.