another one bites the dust

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Solver


I do not know what the legal term is, but they can definitely see a problem. Even assuming they don't notice that the person has been there for 72 hours straight, a person in such a state of exhaustion will look different.

From your typical WOW player?

[Solver]

Even if they live in the cyber cafe, it'd still take a moron not to recognize a person in a state of extreme exhaustion who's clearly played for too long.

[DrSpike]

I don't think you realise the scale of some of these places. It's very easy for someone just to blend in.

[Solver]

No, I don't realize the scale. However, blending in is only a problem when trying to enforce a rigid "you're out after X hours" rule. You can still, though, have the staff members walk through the cafe periodically to take a look at the customers and spot any that may be a danger to themselves.

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Colon™
I think they should sue the internet really.

Al Gore cant afford it.

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Solver
Even if they live in the cyber cafe, it'd still take a moron not to recognize a person in a state of extreme exhaustion who's clearly played for too long.

anyone know if they were gold farming?

If so, and they were being paid, does it become a labor issue?

[Dis]

considering we hold bar owners responsible for DUI's in the U.S. (in some areas), the cafe owners could be held responsible for this.

But in most cases it's actually dehydration that kills them I think. Not playing computer games.

[Colon™]

Originally posted by Solver
No, I don't realize the scale. However, blending in is only a problem when trying to enforce a rigid "you're out after X hours" rule. You can still, though, have the staff members walk through the cafe periodically to take a look at the customers and spot any that may be a danger to themselves.

Don't cybercafés usually have a central system that keeps track how long customers are using a computer?

[Dis]

never been to one, but considering they are computers, it wouldn't be very difficult to track the usage.

I would think they track usage anyways so they can see what games are being played most, so they know what games to install etc.

With my internet problems maybe I should play wow in a cafe. But that would suck. I doubt the chair is as comfortable. You probably have to wear earphones, no mic for vent. Can't listen to music while playing. Can't play in underwear. . no thanks.

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Dis
considering we hold bar owners responsible for DUI's in the U.S. (in some areas), the cafe owners could be held responsible for this.

But in most cases it's actually dehydration that kills them I think. Not playing computer games.

so in one case we hold the proprietor responsible for the customer drinking too much and in this case for the customer drinking too little

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Dis
Can't play in underwear. . no thanks.

every internet cafe ive ever been to, not thats it been many, has allowed the wearing of underwear

[Colon™]

That's my experience also.

[Kataphraktoi]

Originally posted by Solver


I do not know what the legal term is, but they can definitely see a problem. Even assuming they don't notice that the person has been there for 72 hours straight, a person in such a state of exhaustion will look different. I'm pretty sure that even after "only" 24 hours of non-stop gaming, you could tell that the person needs a break.

Maybe practically enforcing a time limit is difficult, but the staff should make sure that people don't pose a great threat to their own health. That is doable.

Bull. Thats essentially saying the establishment, whatever form it takes, is responsible for and knows what is best for its patrons. China isnt a republic so they can do whatever they see fit, of course.

Primarily, of course. But I am not buying the idea that the staff are not guilty of negligence here.

In the Land of the Free, I'd expect people to sue a restaurant if they fell down the stairs there, which much sillier.

You can also justify bank robbery by saying you would expect people to steal money. We have huge problems with frivolous lawsuits that needs to be fixed and is hardly justification for anything.

[DrSpike]

Originally posted by lord of the mark


anyone know if they were gold farming?

If so, and they were being paid, does it become a labor issue?

You could ask the guy that comes here offering powerlevelling services - I'm sure he knows.

[Solver]

Thats essentially saying the establishment, whatever form it takes, is responsible for and knows what is best for its patrons.

No, it doesn't know what's best but yes, it does have limited responsibility - the responsibility for the patrons' life/health while using the establishment. A restaurant will react if a customer is being obviously sick because of the food. Granted, a cybercafe death is the dead person's choice to a larger degree, but that doesn't justify inaction on the staff behalf given - this is the crucial point for me - that the problem could have easily been spotted and rectified.