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  • #31
    Nice.
    "And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you—ask what you can do for your country. My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man." -- JFK Inaugural, 1961
    "Extremism in the defense of liberty is not a vice." -- Barry Goldwater, 1964 GOP Nomination acceptance speech (not George W. Bush 40 years later...)
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    • #32


      Awesome stuff.

      I can't get enough of it, the fact that it's one guy is what makes this so ...
      be free

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Blake
        Procedural programming can't be used for storage. It's going to be largely a "look but don't touch" universe. I mean, obviously, if there are 4 billion planet, and planets can be changed in some ways by players... than if on each planet, a 4-byte "mark" was made (say the "first steps" player), then that's already 16GB of storage required.
        Theoretically all 4 billion planets could be visited, but very likely it won't be. Consider a spreadsheet. Theoretically you can fill it with tons of numbers, but in practice a sheet is mostly empty.

        Originally posted by Blake
        The Universe is just too BIG for players to effect. If there is resource extraction, then resources will be too abundant. If players can build empires, then there will be too much room for expansion. No conflict. No scarcity. (and also, because of the data problem, no depletion of resources)
        Yes, no, maybe. Consider titanium. IIRC, we have more titanium on earth than iron, way more. However titanium is hard to extract, thus, iron is still cheaper.

        Originally posted by Blake
        If it is succesful, it'll probably end up with 99% of the players in 0.00000000000000000000000000000001% of the space, and the other 1% in 0.00000000000000000000000000000099% of the space. And I'm not sure if I have enough 0's.
        True that. Or you can just limit everybody to the Alpha Quardrant. Something like that.

        Originally posted by Blake
        I mean even a single planet - say like mars - would be enough to keep a legion of MMO'ers busy exploring for years.
        It's a matter of scale. In Spaceward Ho! or Master of Orion, each star system is an atom. You can't break it down further.

        BTW, have you ever played a game called Universe, written by Omnitrend? It's a unique game with RPG elements that takes place in a galaxy (or a part of it). So its doable.

        BTW, Universe is an excellent game. Probably not as awesome as UFO: Enemy Unknown, but still one of the forgotten greats.
        Last edited by Urban Ranger; June 12, 2006, 03:04.
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        • #34
          Originally posted by Urban Ranger
          Yes, no, maybe. Consider titanium. IIRC, we have more titanium on earth than iron, way more. However titanium is hard to extract, thus, iron is still cheaper.
          Where do you get this stuff? Are you deliberately trying to discredit yourself by post after post of inaccurate information? This is laughably wrong. You'd think that you would check something like this before posting. So I ask, where did you get this information?

          Titanium isn't even in the Top 5. However, iron is.
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          • #35
            A quick google confirms that iron is more common (both top 5 though!), but it is true that titanium is more common than you'd think, and extraction difficulties are the reason.

            But it does not really surprise me that UR failed to take the 30 seconds it just took me to check his facts.

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            • #36
              I just wonder where he gets these "facts" to begin with. It's not something that you'd likely logically assume.
              “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
              "Capitalism ho!"

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              • #37
                Originally posted by DrSpike
                A quick google confirms that iron is more common (both top 5 though!), but it is true that titanium is more common than you'd think, and extraction difficulties are the reason.

                But it does not really surprise me that UR failed to take the 30 seconds it just took me to check his facts.
                Oh it's not just me Spikey. It's also some person who's so gung ho on showing that I am wrong.

                Originally posted by DaShi
                Where do you get this stuff? Are you deliberately trying to discredit yourself by post after post of inaccurate information? This is laughably wrong. You'd think that you would check something like this before posting. So I ask, where did you get this information?

                Titanium isn't even in the Top 5. However, iron is.
                (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
                (='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
                (")_(") "Starting the fire from within."

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                • #38
                  Knowing the proportional mineral content of earth is indicative of a large penis.
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                  Do It Ourselves

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Urban Ranger


                    Oh it's not just me Spikey. It's also some person who's so gung ho on showing that I am wrong.
                    At least you finally see the difference between showing something and simply saying it. But could you please tell us where you get this kind of info. I've never seen anyone be so wrong so much and post stuff like this as facts. It's just that they are so blatant.

                    As for Titanium not being in the top 5, I was refering to the abundance of elements not just metals. Apparently, this is something else you didn't know.
                    “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
                    "Capitalism ho!"

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by General Ludd
                      Knowing the proportional mineral content of earth is indicative of a large penis.
                      So that's why UR lies about it.
                      “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
                      "Capitalism ho!"

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                      • #41
                        How big is your penis if you don't know the answer offhand but are really really good at checking it fast on google?

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                        • #42
                          Um. . .it's huge.
                          “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
                          "Capitalism ho!"

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                          • #43
                            I think this thread has taken a turn for the worse.
                            I'm building a wagon! On some other part of the internets, obviously (but not that other site).

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Urban Ranger
                              BTW, Universe is an excellent game. Probably not as awesome as UFO: Enemy Unknown, but still one of the forgotten greats.
                              I may just check out Universe. Thanks.
                              I just reloaded UFO: EU on my hard drive again this week along with Xcomutil 9.6. Will be playing again soon.

                              Originally posted by General Ludd
                              Knowing the proportional mineral content of earth is indicative of a large penis.
                              I see you haven't added anything to the subject.


                              Back to topic -
                              Is there a playable demo yet?
                              "And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you—ask what you can do for your country. My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man." -- JFK Inaugural, 1961
                              "Extremism in the defense of liberty is not a vice." -- Barry Goldwater, 1964 GOP Nomination acceptance speech (not George W. Bush 40 years later...)
                              2004 Presidential Candidate
                              2008 Presidential Candidate (for what its worth)

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Vince278
                                I may just check out Universe. Thanks.
                                Tell me how it goes.
                                (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
                                (='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
                                (")_(") "Starting the fire from within."

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