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  • #1

    I bought Victoria

    Because I've heard it talked about on here and it was $3.

    Right now it seems pretty confusing. I'll read the manual and try again in the morning. Any tips, comments on the game from Apolytoners?
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  • #2
    In general, Paradox's manuals are crap. You should check here instead for reliable info:

    http://www.europa-universalis.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=160
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    • #3
      I bought it ages ago, but I can't face the learning curve.
      Only feebs vote.

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      • #4
        The learning curve is pretty harsh. We had threads about Victoria when Oerdin first bought it. You may want to look at our Paradox subforum: It's likely to be more accessible to you than the genuine Paradox ones, because we aren't power players.
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        • #5
          Normally, there's something for everyone, from newbs to experts, on the Paradox boards.
          Let us be lazy in everything, except in loving and drinking, except in being lazy – Lessing

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Agathon
            I bought it ages ago, but I can't face the learning curve.
            Frankly, based on the reviews I read, it doesn't look like a very good game. So I didn't buy it. But for 3 bucks, I guess mrmitchell could get his money's worth. The only Paradox game I would recommend is Europa Universalis 2. Again, the learning curve is steep, but the game is pretty good. Hearts of Iron 2 looks pretty good also, but I haven't tried it yet. I was impatiently waiting for the first one, but then when I read the reviews, I didn't buy it.
            Let us be lazy in everything, except in loving and drinking, except in being lazy – Lessing

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            • #7
              It's been forgotten by Paradox. The much needed 1.4 patch has been in stasis for over a year now, I think.
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              • #8
                So which Paradox games do they actively support?

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                • #9
                  Crusader Kings is the only one that I would call *active*. There are beta patches released for it constantly and people are kept up to date about what is being done with it.

                  Europa Universalis 2 still gets the occasional update, although it really doesn't need any at this point. (It's Johan's favorite game, so he'll keep refining it)

                  Hearts of Iron 2 and Victoria both have patches that are expected, but no specifics on what or when. I'm skeptical that Victoria will ever be updated at this point.
                  Rethink Refuse Reduce Reuse

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                  • #10
                    I've never put any serious time into a Paradox game. I doubt I'll ever get time given other gaming plans, but if I did which one should I play?

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                    • #11
                      I've heard lots of good things about the Europa Universalis series... Don't see them much in real life shops anymore, though...

                      I have one game from Paradox, Airfix Dogfighter. It's ok, but not much more (no challenge, really)... Cool idea, though...

                      You fly Airfix's plastic plane models, dogfighting other planes, bombing tanks and buildings etc as you go through missions in a house...

                      Not a simulator, more like an action game... A game to play even in 10-15 minutes sessions as a distraction...

                      Carolus

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Carolus Rex
                        I've heard lots of good things about the Europa Universalis series... Don't see them much in real life shops anymore, though...

                        I have one game from Paradox, Airfix Dogfighter. It's ok, but not much more (no challenge, really)... Cool idea, though...

                        You fly Airfix's plastic plane models, dogfighting other planes, bombing tanks and buildings etc as you go through missions in a house...

                        Not a simulator, more like an action game... A game to play even in 10-15 minutes sessions as a distraction...

                        Carolus
                        EU2 is included in the strategy 6 pack. You can also buy all their games online.

                        http://www.paradoxshop.com/


                        You can also download them on

                        http://shop.paradoxondemand.com/
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by DrSpike
                          I've never put any serious time into a Paradox game. I doubt I'll ever get time given other gaming plans, but if I did which one should I play?
                          Europa Universalis 2. (Hearts of Iron would be my second choice, and I haven't really played HOI II).
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by DrSpike
                            I've never put any serious time into a Paradox game. I doubt I'll ever get time given other gaming plans, but if I did which one should I play?
                            3 ways to answer that

                            1. Which period in history are you most interested in?These games really are very much about their subject matter - im sure there people who enjoy them just for their mechanics, etc. but given both the nature of these games, and my own focus, its hard for me to contemplate that.

                            2. What kind of game are you most interested in? EU2 is a little bit high level war game, a little bit simcity building game, simsociety, etc. I havent played the others, but my sense is that Victoria is much MORE simsociety, economics, and less war, while HOI and HOI2 are more war games (though still at the grand strategic level) CK is said to be more RPish. (though RP CAN be part of playing EU2, if you want it to be)

                            3. General game play mechanics - EU2 is widely considered the "best" most finished, most balanced of the bunch. all the others have their fans, but also have key criticisms.
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                            • #15
                              I bought Europa Universalis (the first one) a long time ago, but never really installed it. I think the humongous manual scared me a little bit.
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