Knights of the Old Republic II!

[Nostromo]

Is the ending that bad?

[Boris Godunov]

The ending is a bit of a let down, for sure. But it's not "awful." There's just a lot of seemingly carefully-planned build up but sloppy resolution with lots of plot threads left dangling.

I'm playing through again as darkside, and man do I kick ass. I've achieved darkside mastery (which is +50 FP) and am now a Sith Lord. I converted Atton to be a dark jedi, Hanharr is my ***** and I'm working my mojo on the Handmaiden. HK adores me, too. I'm still having a tough time cracking GOTO and getting all of his story, however.

I'm on Dantooine right now and haven't yet decided on how I will let the mercenary/settler conflict pan out. We shall see...

[Dis]

have you finished it? I don't want to spoil it, not even in spoiler tags.

Actually I couldn't explain it even if I tried. . It's tought to explain. It all happens so fast. The final boss does explain a few things, but doesn't explain others.

It's very rushed. You can notice a difference. The first 7/8 of the game is very detailed, but the last part isn't. It seems like it was put toegether quickly.

It's obvious they ran out of time and had to get the game out by christmas.

it's still worth playing. A game such as this it's not the destination, but the journey that matters. So hopefully you like the gameplay.

[Jamski]

I finished it last night. The ending was kinda awesome in its own way. I felt like an angry avenging goddess of death by the time I got to Malachor V. Wow I was kicking butt for goodness.

I'm really impressed by what the Obsidian team can make. The characters are believable, the plot have momentum, the locations and challenges are varied. My one small problem is that 3 classes are basically worthless, and they were the ones with the most potential (Consular, Jedi Master, Sith Lord) due to the way that even a Guardian/Weaponmaster with moderate WIS can kick adequate butt with Force Powers, while also having the option of kicking massive butt in melee.

Oh, and why is the Light Side power Force Wave a better attack power than Lightning Storm? That's just broken. The Dark Side should have the best direct attack options. I think doing 40-50 damage and throwing everyone back and stunning them for 12 seconds is WAY better than doing 70-80 damage or so. That stun period means you have time to kill one in melee before Force Pushing again, and you never have to worry at all about defence, as your enemies can't get close to you (hah blasters! DEFLECTION ,LOSERS)

-Jam

[DrSpike]

Imagine KotOReque plots and characters with the unrestricted version of the engine.

[Jamski]

:drool:

I can imagine it better than you Go learn the engine and then you will :überdrool:

-jam

[DrSpike]

Don't need to.

[Boris Godunov]

Jamski--

I don't think Force wave is a lightside power, it's a universal one. I've been using it as darkside to great effect. Darkside already has some kick-arse powers, so making the lightning overpowering wouldn't do much.

[Jamski]

Crap, Boris is right.

-Jam

[Dis]

yep it's universal. I took it as a dark sider, but I still don't feel right using it .

I usually use insanity and force storm.

Does anyone use plague? As soon as I saw that it cannot be saved against (DC 100) I took it. Though sometimes it doesn't seem to work despite having a DC of 100. I used it with Carth during the fight against those 2 bounty hunters in the bar. Sometimes it wouldn't work. Even as a jedi, that was a hard fight. I have no choice but to go in the back of the bar, squeeze behind a table and fight one at a time.

I like to use plague against tough enemies that won't go down in one hit. I"m not sure how much of a difference it makes. I figured if it lowered their attributes, it would make it harder for them to hit me. I still got hit alot though.

[Boris Godunov]

You had trouble with Atton (not Carth, but I understand why you confused the two ) fighting the bounty hunters? I never did. Both times, he made mincemeat out of them. Just put him in the best armor and equip him with a vibroblade. Hack hack hack.

I don't use plague. My favorite is to use Kill followed by Force Wave, so you levitate an enemy while choking him, and then fling him away.

My general rule with fighting is to hit enemies with force wave a few times to weaken/stun them, and then run in with Master Flurry while using Knight Speed. That gives 4 attacks per round, which takes out most baddies with one flourish. I annihlated Vrook very quickly with the Flurry/Speed combo.

[Jamski]

That fight is TEH EASY.

Run behind the bar, stand there and shoot them. The AI pathfinding makes them run up to the bar and stop there waving their swords about. Easiness.

-Jam

[Tassadar500]

I think that's considered abusing the game mechanics.

[Jamski]

Look, in every movie, in every game, the hero ducks behind the bar if there is a "fight in a bar scene" FACT.

-Jam

[Boris Godunov]

That's true. But also in every such scene, there's a moment when the hero gets to slide someone down the bar head-first. We should get to do that, too!