What games WONT run on Intel "Extreme" Integrated Graphics

[child of Thor]

Originally posted by reds4ever


You're not an advocate of home rule for Cornwall are you?

well you are speaking to a welshman

[DrSpike]

That's enough to put people off by itself.

[child of Thor]

just keep an eye on your leg of beef Dr.Spike

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by child of Thor


Well me and the OT have history that might not help me much...lets just say my political views upset some people

my sense is that people in OT will respond to a tech question without regard to what happens in the politics threads. You should see how some of us bitter political enemies get along in the non-political threads.

[Spaced Cowboy]

If you have a sound card, try putting it in, and/or disabling the on board sound.

[child of Thor]

Thanks for eveyones advice - it now works and i've been able to play MedivalTW at last

It was a slightly wierd result. I'd pretty much done everything i could think of(and was getting into assigning individual memmory blocks etc....), when i just got fed up on Sunday and decided to set my pc back to normal(on-board i810 etc) as i wanted to see what Gal-civ was like.
Anyway i did just that - removing all metion of the NVDIA geforce2 from my pc. I put the Network card back into its PCI slot(the first one,the one that caused the conflict with the on-board sound and the geforce2).

And after giving Gal-civ a quick look, decided to try one more time with the geforce.

I put it in the second PCI slot, booted the pc and the plug+play feature kicked in. Loaded the drivers as before, then had a slightly different screen where it said the on-board i810 was conflicting with the geforce, and i should click the 'resolve' box to continue, which i did. So after that i just needed to use the disable in hardware mode tick box(for the i810) and rebooted and everything was fine!

With my monitor plugged into the new Geforce2 card everything is running great

I'm sure i tried this before, but maybe the drivers hadn't installed correctly or something? anyway its all good and i now have a PC more powerfull than a P166 and more importantly one that i can play theif2 and MTW on

oh and no - i'm not going to get rid of the P166, its been a great gaming PC for me, and will continue to be

[DrSpike]

Good.

And next time will you buy an "Extreme" system?

[child of Thor]

well it has been "extreme"ly annoying... luckily i didn't have to buy it, it was a gift but still it makes me no more extremes for me

[DrSpike]

Listening LotM?

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by DrSpike
Listening LotM?

ah, but Cot didnt have a bargain basement OnBoard graphics with NO videocard slot machine, he had what ive been considering as a BETTER choice - a machine with onboard graphics, AND a free slot. Turns out it was not easy adding the discrete card. So it seems this implies going ever FARTHER upmarket and getting a game with a discrete video card from the beginning. OR it implies just forget the discrete card, and get the bargain basement machine only. That will run lots of games, do everything else I need, and leave the wallet fatter - than two years later go ahead and buy ANOTHER integrated graphics machine, which will probably run everything that I would need a video card for now.

The other factor is getting QOTM to change her thinking - to the idea that a PC is basically a short term product that you replace every couple of years, not something you spend a couple of thousand dollars on and keep for - sigh!!! - over 7 years.

QOTM on Saturday - why are were you looking for a new game, dont you already have alot of games?

QOTM on Sunday - so if a $300 PC will do what we need, who buys the $2,000 machines? Gamers? But dont you need that for your games?
LOTM - well, since our current PC hasnt been able to play anything thats come out in the last 4 and a half years ive got a lot of backlog.
QOTM - Shouldnt we buy something top of the line, since we keep it so long
LOTM - thats not really the best strategy
QOTM - So your saying its better to buy something cheaper and replace it more often? (Look of enlightenment)

[DrSpike]

I refer the reader to my eloquently argued case for a more upgradeable budget system.

[Jamski]

Pay more now, play less in the long run. Simple.

-Jam

[Tassadar500]

Speaking of which, how many years do you think my system could last, with no hardware upgrades?

20" LCD 1600x1200 16 MS
ATI RADEON X850 XT PE
3.4 GHz Intel Processor

[DrSpike]

Rough rule is 2 years after you bought it it will be getting old; perhaps not bad enough to make you upgrade everything, but maybe just a graphics card. 3 years and you'll probably need to upgrade.

However it is possible that games are less likely now to use all the resources of the best machines. I still think you will want to get some new parts in 2-3 years though.

My machine is just over a year old now, and is going strong.

[lord of the mark]

"I just don't like those systems..........my mate bought one, and the RAM went. I identified the problem easily but it was near impossible to fix it without sending the machine back. I finally managed it, but it took much more time than it should have (a 15 minute job tops)."

If you like getting under the hood, obviously you want a system where its easier to do that - and yes, that will be cheaper. I have to face the prospect that if something goes I may have to send the machine to a shop ANYWAY, based on the family situation.