What games WONT run on Intel "Extreme" Integrated Graphics

[DrSpike]

I feel your pain.

Good luck.

[child of Thor]

No worries - if its meant to be it will work out eventually.

I should be ok with the flash the Bios thing, i wont do anything daft like dripping water onto the processor. Or heating the new Geforce2 in the oven first etc.

Still its just a slightly puzzeling problem, as it seems i should be able to add a new graphics card.......very annoying.
I've now got a few games i like(/would like) to play on this system that i can't if it does die.

[lord of the mark]

now wait a minute, im confused.


COT, you had an dinosaur P166.

You got a Pentium3 (at least 500 Mhz?) But it had only integrated video. Now youre sweating trying to install a video card.

What games do you want that it wont run? MTW? Id think there are plenty of games it will run that wouldnt work on your old P166.

[child of Thor]

You'd be surprised

the games i want to play but cant because of the on-board are(so far):

MTW
Theif2

the games i can play on the PIII(but not p166) and will be sad to loose if i fry the motherboard are:

Patrician3
HardWar

erm...Middle Kingdom something or other.....its in the Pharoah series of city builder games.

thats its. I cant really think of many other games this PC would enable me to play though, not that i would like better than what igot already.....maybe the NWN games?

So not that many - the first two games(MTW+Thief2) were the main reason for taking the pc home in the first place.

[reds4ever]

I just got Rome Total War for my 3.2gig Ati 9800 desktop and decided to try to install it on my Dell laptop as well (p4 but intel shared graphics), it worked fine at the lower graphics settings.

The Dell has 512 meg and the graphics take 64 of that so theres memory to spare, if you are having trouble getting RtW to work, I'd look at the memory rather than the on-board graphics first.

[DrSpike]

The 64 refers to the amount of RAM your video card has, not the amount of your system RAM it uses.

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by DrSpike
The 64 refers to the amount of RAM your video card has, not the amount of your system RAM it uses.

Doc, in an integrated system thats the amount thats SHARED - IE the amount the video system takes from the system, IIUC.

[DrSpike]

News to me. I avoid such abominations.

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by DrSpike
News to me. I avoid such abominations.

Really?


The point is IF youre buying a PC with integrated graphics, youve got to account for that in estimating your RAM needs. One more thing to weigh in the balance.

[reds4ever]

Originally posted by DrSpike
News to me. I avoid such abominations.

Apology accepted

[reds4ever]

Originally posted by lord of the mark


Really?


The point is IF youre buying a PC with integrated graphics, youve got to account for that in estimating your RAM needs. One more thing to weigh in the balance.

Exactly, look at the *COMBINED* memory requirements before you blame the graphics card/system.

[child of Thor]

Well it would be nice if my 'new' PC would atleast let me put in a new graphics card

For MTW i can get the game to load up but when you go into the options section, and look at the display settings; it shows the i810 as the graphics card but the tactical map display resolution is 'redded' out and when you test it it freezes up. The game boots you back to the title screen if you try to start a game.

Theif2 is an even older game(i think it mentions 32MB as the min rec?).

OK i've flashed the Bios(cheers Locutus ), first with the older update - no disasters and the small progress made was that now the PC will boot with the Geforce2 in the first PCI slot(Its the same old non-boot up story if i put it in either the 2nd or 3rd PCI slots).

I think the problem now is a conflict with the on-board sound chip(AC97 something). In the device manager both the NVDIA display adapter and the AC97 soundchip are now shown with the yellow exclamation mark on them, and when you go into eithers properties it says they are have a problem and are either not working or need to update drivers(but i got the latest) etc.

I did the whole 'add new hardware' for the graphics card and installed the drivers etc, tried disableing the on-board i810, selecting standard vga etc....but never got the option to use the Geforce2 as the main display adapter, unless there was that conflict with the soundchip.

So its a small victory, followed by some more head scratching.

I did then flash the Bios with the latest update, but it still had the same problem.

If i take the Geforce2 out of that first PCI slot then the sound is restored. Funny thing is this PCI slot was being used by my network card before and that never caused a problem?

I think i may just change the IRQ of the soundchip and see what happens.

Any other suggestions?

[DrSpike]

No specific advice except research IRQ conflicts and how to resolve them.

If I were you I'd post in the OT about your problems. They look very much solvable now.

[child of Thor]

Originally posted by DrSpike
No specific advice except research IRQ conflicts and how to resolve them.

If I were you I'd post in the OT about your problems. They look very much solvable now.

Well me and the OT have history that might not help me much...lets just say my political views upset some people

Still this thread is kinda appropriate as it does boil down to what games have problems with on-board, and how to fix that(hopefully). And i got Locutus on hand if things get real messy, so i'm not sweating it so much now

[reds4ever]

Originally posted by child of Thor


Well me and the OT have history that might not help me much...lets just say my political views upset some people

You're not an advocate of home rule for Cornwall are you?