Society VI: Signup and Rules Debate

[:) Smiley]

The original list of wonders was heavily influenced by the names of existing forum games (in case you wonder why there's a Nascar wonder) and functions were added as seemed to make sense.

In general, my opinion on wonders is that they should allow players to "break rules" rather than simply be a mathematical modifier. The following illustrate this well:
#2 Colosseum
#4 Acropolis
#5 Silk Road (though it's benefit is weak)
#6 Jihad
#8 Trans Siberian Railroad (this seems to be a Holy Grail of wonders)
#10 U of California
#11 Nascar (0.75 sounds good; there still should be some benefit to foreign trade)
#12 KGB
#13 Majestic 12 (Completely uninterceptable is a bit overpowered however)

That said, here are suggestions for the other 6.
#1 Tower of Babel- no changes
#3 Trojan Horse- Allows sabotage of Espionage
#7 Mafia- Full taxes under Despotism and Monarchy
#9 National Rifle Association- First turn of regular war still treated like a sneak attack (only border cities can be taken)
#14 Galactic Overlord- SDI satellites of nations you are not at war with defend your cities during an attack

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Limiting caravans to 15 Otherwise, the >15 technologies become prohibitively expensive. .

[Spaced Cowboy]

Where the heck is Sparrowhawk, Muxec, Gamecube64, and Ljube?

[Sparrowhawk]

Oops, I am in and I have a lot of ideas but haven't seemed to have time to post them.

I have been following the discussion however, and the changes so far seem to be on the right track.

I still like the idea of a wonder that allows attacking anyone in any part of the world, but not sure how that would work (there are no adjecent territories, so what squares do you attack). No one else has posted in favour of this however, so perhaps I am alone in wanting this change.

I also would like to see Galactic Overlord changed, I think 2 Nukes per city is enough, as we see from last game 4 Nukes per city is too many, but I think 3 Nukes per city doesn't change it enough.

/me who doesn't have time to post ideas still types a long message explaining his ideas ...I have more and will post them as I have time, but bottom line is I am definitely interested in playing in the next game

[muxec]

Suggested wonder balancing:

3. Troyan horse: One spy per two turns
5. Silk road: 5% of income from all trade worldwide to you.
7. Mafia: Steals square of tech level of gold from each player.
13. Majestic 12 first. 6 of your nukes each turn can not be intercepted.
14. Adds Tech_level of SDIs (14 or more SDIs)

[DarkCloud]

Smiley- I just visited your website- I enjoyed the chemical state comics

[Whoha]

Nice thing to improve nascar Jonny, you can trade with yourself and still nuke with abandon.

[DarkCloud]

I think smiley's ideas reflect the games' spirit best... here's the revised list of wonders:

1. Tower of Babel- Generates gold per turn equal to the square of your tech level.

2. Colosseum- makes you immune to enemy attack. Expires with anyone reaches Industrialization (#8). Clarification: If you attack someone, they get one counterattack.

3. Trojan Horse- you get a spy every turn before Espionage (#7), and Sabotauge of the Espionage Phase is allowed afterwards.

4. Acropolis- you have the option to change to Republic even without the technology. You still need a Revolution.

5. Silk Road- allows trade with all players, regardless of distance. Your caravans are free. Additionaly, every turn you receive 10% of worldwide trade. Expires with Mass Education (#10)

6. Jihad - Allows the Society to attack all cities without a war declaration (unlike a sneak attack which only allows the attack of adjecent cities).

7. Mafia- All Cities can be taxed even if your nation is a Despotism or a Monarchy.

8. Trans-Siberian Railroad- Your new cities may be built anywhere.

9. National Rifle Association- The First turn of a declared war is treated like a sneak attack. Only border cities may be taken.

10. University of California- Allows you to build anything that you have not yet discovered the technology for, providing that someone else has (spaceship parts, wonders, nukes, SDI).

11. NASCAR- You can trade with yourself. Your Caravans are Free. (income per caravan = 0.75 * square of your tech level) [Note: You only get income once- you don't get double trade income]

12. KGB- When built, allows you to designate any other wonder obsolete. After use the wonder is obsolete.

13. Majestic-12 Program- your nuclear missiles can only be taken down by a grid of at least 3 SDIs.

14. Galactic Overlord- SDI satellites of all nations are used to defend your nation.

[DarkCloud]

How about that?

I also took out the caravan limits.

Is everyone OK with this?

[:) Smiley]

Thanks for visiting the site, by the way!

[Spaced Cowboy]

:d:

[Sparrowhawk]

@:d:



Looks good........how many players do we have so far? (Sparrowhawk is lazy)

[Spaced Cowboy]

:B: I never can remember those shortcizzles

[Jonny]

Those rules look good.

Psst... Spaced... you need a lowercase b.

[muxec]

Now it's better. Respect.


BTW :d: is left-handed thumb up.

[DarkCloud]

These are our players right now:

Vlad Antlerkov... The Empire of Somewhat Moderately Evilness

Spaced Cowboy... The Empire of the Dudes

Whoha... The Most Evil of Empires

Smiley... The United States of Canada

Jonny... The Empire of Enlightenment

Sparrowhawk... Coven of Hawks

muxec... The Not So Bad Empire