FG: Galactic Overlord III Game Thread

[GeneralTacticus]

Originally posted by Kassiopeia
Damn and blast. I try to attack, and what happens, I end up nomadic with a crippled fleet.

Hey, if you'd gone in for a more balanced fleet and the same OOB, Boshko would have been absolutely owned. The only reason you suffered as badly as you did was that with no lasers or fighters, you had nothing to prevent his ships from ripping you apart in the four rounds you weren't firing.

EDIT: Not to mention that he'd probably have gone down completely if he hadn't been Spread Out vs. your torps. 36 hits on the first round would have made taking him down the rest of the way a trivial matter.

[Jamski]

Darn, I KNEW I should have used "and attack whoever we find there" orders.

Round 3 orders sent

-Jam

[Jamski]

btw, to rectify the confusion apparently suffered by Jamski: the numbers in brackets represent the number of hits taken by the damaged ship, not the number of damaged ships you have. Because of the way combat works, it's very difficult to get two damaged ships in the same category.

Oh, can you make that "number of damaged ships" instead, as in the last games? The amount of damage is not really that important, is it? All ships cost 1 BP to repair all damage, right?

Oh, that means I have 1 extra BP stockpiled too Yay!

-Jam

[GeneralTacticus]

I must say, I really don't see the point of recording the number of damaged ships, given that it would be extremely unusual for anyone to have more than one damaged ships in the same entry; the recording of the amount of damage is mainly for HP purposes.

[Kassiopeia]

Hey, if you'd gone in for a more balanced fleet and the same OOB, Boshko would have been absolutely owned. The only reason you suffered as badly as you did was that with no lasers or fighters, you had nothing to prevent his ships from ripping you apart in the four rounds you weren't firing.

EDIT: Not to mention that he'd probably have gone down completely if he hadn't been Spread Out vs. your torps. 36 hits on the first round would have made taking him down the rest of the way a trivial matter.

Yes, I know. I wasn't whingeing, just feeling sorry for myself over my own tactical mistakes and the fact that I was counting on Boshko to build more laser ships. That and I'm very peeved that my first set of orders, which you ignored just like you should have, contained instructions to build fighter dreadnaughts. I guess I still haven't quite understood the combat system yet - what use does it have to have one fighter dreadnaught blasting away at his ships if he's got, say, three laser dreadies on the same turn? It'll result in eradication in any case, because he'll have more ships than I do on that turn. A few fighter and laser ships wouldn't have done me really that much good.

[GeneralTacticus]

Well, out of interest, I calculated what the results would have been if you'd gone for a totally balanced fleet, and hit Boshko with the same OOB... the reults are below.

WARNING: STRICTLY UNOFFICIAL AND NOT IN ANY WAY A REFLECTION OF ACTUAL TURN RESULTS!

 LTF-TLF		TFL-TFL

hp 54	            	hp 48

4LB     		2FL
4FB      		2FD
1TB     		1TD 2TC


RAW DATA
Boshko		Kassiopeia
-----------------------------------
12 lasers	8 torpedoes
3 torpedoes	8 fighters
12 fighters	8 lasers

Close, spread Back, default

ADJUSTED DATA
Boshko		Kassiopeia
-----------------------------------
12 lasers	8 torpedoes         Kassiopeia takes 4 hits
3 torpedoes     [b]32[/b] fighters Boshko takes 29 hits
12 fighters       16 lasers              Boshko takes 4 hits.

Boshko takes 33 hits.
Kassiopeia takes 4 hits.

[b]Revised Fleet Numbers:[/b]

hp 21	            	hp 44

No lasers!     		2FL
4FB(1)      		2FD
No torpedoes!     	1TD 1TC


RAW DATA
Boshko		Kassiopeia
-----------------------------------
0 lasers	6 torpedoes
0 torpedoes	8 fighters
12 fighters	8 lasers

ADJUSTED DATA
Boshko		Kassiopeia
-----------------------------------
0 lasers	6 torpedoes         Boshko takes 6 hits
0 torpedoes     [b]32[/b] fighters Boshko takes 32 hits

Boshko takes 71 hits and is destroyed.

Kassiopeia is victorious.

[Skanky Burns]

ADJUSTED DATA
-----------------------------------
3 torpedoes      0 fighters
12 fighters        0 lasers

Shouldn't this be adjusted to 6 torp damage and 24 fighter damage? They are firing unopposed so are automatically considered to be owning the enemy. Kassi dies in this battle.

[GeneralTacticus]

Hmmm... was this the rule followed in the last GO? I don't recall it being applied, but I don't recall single-weapon fleets being very widely employed in that one.

[Skanky Burns]

Yes. Here is an example from early in game II.

RAW DATA
Gamecube64	Ljube
-----------------------------------
12 torpedoes	0 lasers
6 fighters	0 lasers
9 lasers	20 torpedoes
9 lasers	20 torpedoes
6 fighters	0 fighters
12 torpedoes	0 fighters

Close, default	Back, bunch

ADJUSTED DATA
Gamecube64	Ljube
-----------------------------------
48 torpedoes	0 lasers	Ljube takes 48 hits
6 fighters	0 lasers	Ljube takes  6 hits
9 lasers	40 torpedoes	Gamecube64 takes 31 hits
9 lasers	40 torpedoes	Gamecube64 takes 31 hits
6 fighters	0 fighters	Ljube takes  6 hits
48 torpedoes	0 fighters	Ljube takes 48 hits

EDIT: Here is a battle where I actually followed my rules.

[GeneralTacticus]

Hang on, didn't the decription say that both fleets Closed In before opening fire? That would account for the x4 multip0lication, and would not be consistent with multiplying unopposed shooting by 2...

[Jamski]

Yeah, that was a close range laser death-fest.

-Jam

[Skanky Burns]

Erm, seems that first battle was miscalculated slightly. Not that it matters, they were already dead with half-damage being done to them.

New battle:
12 torpedoes vs 0 lasers
12 x 2(enemy bunched) x2(unopposed) = 48
6 fighters vs 0 lasers
6 x0.5(enemy bunched) x2(unopposed) = 6

[GeoModder]

Nice to see some history correct itself, but nevertheless, orders sent!

[Spaced Cowboy]

sent

[:) Smiley]

I miss the colored bars on the chart, but oh well. Sent.

Ljube's production should of accumulated, by the way.