PROJECT: AE Mod

[cap601]

The latest version of the AE Mod is here:

http://www.apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?postid=4914820#post4914820

version 0.01

The AE mod is the combined efforts of the posters at the Apolyton CtP2 sourcecode forum (http://www.apolyton.net/forums/forum...s=&forumid=213) to rebalance, restructure, and generally improve the experience of playing CtP2.

It focuses on neither military, economic, scientific or diplomatic gameplay, but seeks to balance all styles to be equally effective, but to be played in completely different ways to each other.

Post any comments on this mod at the forum thread here: http://www.apolyton.net/forums/showt...hreadid=165870

AE Mod changes:

GENERAL:
========

fortified bonus +200% defence, was 50%. will perhaps be incremental in future release. 1 turn +50%, 2 turns +75% etc.

ADVANCES:
=========

added:

Infantry Tactics - requires Gunpowder - gives Musketeer(see units)
Plasma Engineering - requires Plasma Weaponry - gives Plasma Destroyer(see units)

changed:

Fascism - requires Nationalism + Mass Media (was Gunpowder+Theology)

BUILDINGS:
==========

changed:

food silo - maxpop +0 > maxpop +8
arcologies - maxpop +14 > maxpop +10
aqua filter - maxpop +14 > maxpop +10
forcefield - now does not require city walls to build
security monitor - -30% crime -3 happiness > -30% crime -1 happiness

TERRAIN:
========

food/production/commerce - add/remove advance > changed to

forest: 10/5/10 - agri.rev./agr.rev. > 5/15/5 - conservation/toolmaking
plains: toolmaking/toolmaking > toolmaking/agri.rev.
tundra: 0/5/0 - adv.composites/adv.comp > 5/5/0 - NONE/adv.composites
glacie: adv.composites/adv.comp > NONE/gaia theory
grassl: toolmaking/toolm. > agri.rev./agri.rev.
desert: 0/0/5 - agri.rev./agri.rev. > 0/10/5 - NONE/agri.rev.
swamp : industrial rev./indus.rev. > NONE/agri.rev.
jungle: 5/10/5 - agri.rev./agri.rev. > 10/10/5 - conservation/toolmaking
mounta: 0/15/10 - fusion/fusion > 0/15/5 - NONE/Fusion
hill : 5/10/10 - explosives/explos. > 5/10/5 - NONE/explosives

shallo: 10/10/5 > 10/5/10
deep : 10/10/5 > 10/5/10
volcan: 0/25/15 > 10/20/10
beach : 10/10/10 > 10/5/10
shelf : 5/10/5 > 10/5/10

d.moun: 0/10/10 - fusion/fusion > 0/15/5 - NONE/fusion
dunes : explosives/explos. > NONE/explosives
p.hill: 0/5/5 - explosives/explos. > 0/10/5 - NONE/explosives
p.moun: 0/10/5 - fusion/fusion > 0/15/5 - NONE/fusion

kelp : 15/10/0 > 15/5/10
reef : 10/15/5 > 10/10/10

rivers: 5/5/5 > 5/0/5

defence of all terrain doubled. e.g forest 25% > 50%, mountain 100% > 200%.

UNITS:
======

att/def/ran/damage/armour - tech - catagory

added:

legion - 20/10/0/1/1 - Iron Working - attacker
longbowman - 10/15/25/2/1 - Feudalism - ranged
musketeer - 40/20/10/3/1 - Infantry Tactics - attacker
plasmatica - 60/70/40/5/1 - Plasma Weaponry - defence

changed:

mounted archer - 10/10/20 - ranged > 15/10/10 - flanker
samurai - 20/10/0 - Iron Working > 30/10/0 - Bureaucracy
plasma destroyer - Plasma Weaponry > Plasma Engineering
war walker - sprite changed
artillery - sprite changed
mobile SAM - name changed to mobile missile system

movement of most units lowered. generally foot=1, mounted=2, wheel=3, future units are greater. see Great Library in game for more details.

WONDERS:
========

Aristotle's Lyceum - +20% science > +10% science, obsolete at Classical Education.
Central Matter Decompiler - "building everywhere"(Matter Decompiler), costs 20,000 > costs 30,000. (better solution at soem point)
Chichen Itza - -30% crime > -30% crime, obsolete at Theology
Field Dynamics Lab - +35% science > +10% science
Genome Project - +10% prod., +10% health (+1HP) for units. > only +10% Health for units.
Globe Sat - full radar coverage, costs 12,400 > costs 18,600 (better solution at some point)
Gutenberg's Bible - +2 happiness, eliminates conversion > only gives "Eliminates conversion"
Internet - "building everywhere" (Computer Center) > +20% science, obsolete at Space Flight(Orbital Laboratories)
Pyramids - +100 gold per turn > +300 gold per turn
Ramayana - +3 happiness > +1 happiness, obsolete Age of Reason
Zero Crime Bill - -60% crime > -30% crime, obsolete at Neural Reprogramming

Original Post:


Has anyone got a list of the changes made in the AE Mod?

[Maquiladora]

I'm compiling a list that'll go in the AE Mod folder.

[Maquiladora]

This is what i've got so far. Tell me if there's anything wrong.

version 0.01

The AE mod is the combined efforts of the posters at the Apolyton CtP2 sourcecode forum (http://www.apolyton.net/forums/forum...s=&forumid=213) to rebalance, restructure, and generally improve the experience of playing CtP2.

It focuses on neither military, economic, scientific or diplomatic gameplay, but seeks to balance all styles to be equally effective, but to be played in completely different ways to each other.

Post any comments on this mod at the forum thread here: http://www.apolyton.net/forums/showt...hreadid=165870

AE Mod changes:

GENERAL:
========

fortified bonus +200% defence, was 50%. will perhaps be incremental in future release. 1 turn +50%, 2 turns +75% etc.

ADVANCES:
=========

added:

Infantry Tactics - requires Gunpowder - gives Musketeer(see units)
Plasma Engineering - requires Plasma Weaponry - gives Plasma Destroyer(see units)

changed:

Fascism - requires Nationalism + Mass Media (was Gunpowder+Theology)

BUILDINGS:
==========

changed:

food silo - maxpop +0 > maxpop +8
arcologies - maxpop +14 > maxpop +10
aqua filter - maxpop +14 > maxpop +10
forcefield - now does not require city walls to build
security monitor - -30% crime -3 happiness > -30% crime -1 happiness

TERRAIN:
========

food/production/commerce - add/remove advance > changed to

forest: 10/5/10 - agri.rev./agr.rev. > 5/15/5 - conservation/toolmaking
plains: toolmaking/toolmaking > toolmaking/agri.rev.
tundra: 0/5/0 - adv.composites/adv.comp > 5/5/0 - NONE/adv.composites
glacie: adv.composites/adv.comp > NONE/gaia theory
grassl: toolmaking/toolm. > agri.rev./agri.rev.
desert: 0/0/5 - agri.rev./agri.rev. > 0/10/5 - NONE/agri.rev.
swamp : industrial rev./indus.rev. > NONE/agri.rev.
jungle: 5/10/5 - agri.rev./agri.rev. > 10/10/5 - conservation/toolmaking
mounta: 0/15/10 - fusion/fusion > 0/15/5 - NONE/Fusion
hill : 5/10/10 - explosives/explos. > 5/10/5 - NONE/explosives

shallo: 10/10/5 > 10/5/10
deep : 10/10/5 > 10/5/10
volcan: 0/25/15 > 10/20/10
beach : 10/10/10 > 10/5/10
shelf : 5/10/5 > 10/5/10

d.moun: 0/10/10 - fusion/fusion > 0/15/5 - NONE/fusion
dunes : explosives/explos. > NONE/explosives
p.hill: 0/5/5 - explosives/explos. > 0/10/5 - NONE/explosives
p.moun: 0/10/5 - fusion/fusion > 0/15/5 - NONE/fusion

kelp : 15/10/0 > 15/5/10
reef : 10/15/5 > 10/10/10

rivers: 5/5/5 > 5/0/5

defence of all terrain doubled. e.g forest 25% > 50%, mountain 100% > 200%.

UNITS:
======

att/def/ran/damage/armour - tech - catagory

added:

legion - 20/10/0/1/1 - Iron Working - attacker
longbowman - 10/15/25/2/1 - Feudalism - ranged
musketeer - 40/20/10/3/1 - Infantry Tactics - attacker
plasmatica - 60/70/40/5/1 - Plasma Weaponry - defence

changed:

mounted archer - 10/10/20 - ranged > 15/10/10 - flanker
samurai - 20/10/0 - Iron Working > 30/10/0 - Bureaucracy
plasma destroyer - Plasma Weaponry > Plasma Engineering
war walker - sprite changed
artillery - sprite changed
mobile SAM - name changed to mobile missile system

movement of most units lowered. generally foot=1, mounted=2, wheel=3, future units are greater. see Great Library in game for more details.

WONDERS:
========

Aristotle's Lyceum - +20% science > +10% science, obsolete at Classical Education.
Central Matter Decompiler - "building everywhere"(Matter Decompiler), costs 20,000 > costs 30,000. (better solution at soem point)
Chichen Itza - -30% crime > -30% crime, obsolete at Theology
Field Dynamics Lab - +35% science > +10% science
Genome Project - +10% prod., +10% health (+1HP) for units. > only +10% Health for units.
Globe Sat - full radar coverage, costs 12,400 > costs 18,600 (better solution at some point)
Gutenberg's Bible - +2 happiness, eliminates conversion > only gives "Eliminates conversion"
Internet - "building everywhere" (Computer Center) > +20% science, obsolete at Space Flight(Orbital Laboratories)
Pyramids - +100 gold per turn > +300 gold per turn
Ramayana - +3 happiness > +1 happiness, obsolete Age of Reason
Zero Crime Bill - -60% crime > -30% crime, obsolete at Neural Reprogramming

[cap601]

You missed the Scout - 0/10/0/1/1. Don't know if there's anything else (haven't played far enough).

[Maquiladora]

We haven't decided in the units thread to include the scout yet, so that's why it's not there. I wouldn't mind a scout unit though.

BTW all those changes won't be in the current AE mod, because there hasn't been a new playtest build since I compiled all the changes. But it is ready to go. I should upload it soon.

[Ekmek]

I'll add it to the new build once I compile Martin's 730 changes

[Maquiladora]

I haven't done the wonders yet either.

E, I'll upload a rar of the AE mod folder and put a link here once it's ready. Then it can be distributed separately in case of recent updates, and included with a playtest build when someone has the time to include it.

[Ekmek]

Maq,

That sounds like a good idea, then I'll update the svn periodically and we'll have a readily available AE_mod more often

[Maquiladora]

http://apolyton.net/upload/view.php?file=10378_aemodv0_01.rar

I'll update the readme above shortly.

[Maquiladora]

Hmm it seems at some point forest, tundra, glacier, swamp, jungle and hills got changed to mountain movement types. I think it was a leftover from the previous AE mod, E why was this? Anyway I've put them back to original settings for now. Updated the rar in 10 mins or so.

Edit: now updated.

[Ekmek]

I had those changed to prevent tanks and other units from driving into the moutains or forest or jungles and stuff. they really should go over plains, grassland, and desert only. this added value back to infantry.

[Maquiladora]

Originally posted by E
I had those changed to prevent tanks and other units from driving into the moutains or forest or jungles and stuff. they really should go over plains, grassland, and desert only. this added value back to infantry.

Well I noticed this right at the start of the game when my M. Archer wouldn't move into forest.

It can be more realistic in some cases but it's quite strict, you could end up with no route out, unless roads could be built outside your borders. Then you end up with lots of roads in neutral territory built towards your enemy, which I don't like as the AI can't do it. It also won't know that its supposed to just send foot units over.

We do still need to make Infantry units useful after Tanks so I'll put it in the units thread anyway.

[Ekmek]

Maq

Once we get the AE mod in a playable state and its confirmed that the playtest is fairly stable, are up to starting a succession game?

[Maquiladora]

Of course. I don't know how long that will be though.

The AI's unit movement (defence and offence) and grouping is my main worry, which I don't have any knowledge of.

City development (tileimps/buildings/wonders) can be easily improved to get the best cities.

Anything else needed can be borrowed from other mods, as long as its compatible.

[Ekmek]

Maq,

my religion code appears to be working in my next playtest. You think we should add it to the AE? In its current state we'll have to make duplicate units of each religion (I guess for now we could reuse the sprite). but the holy city wonders will need to be added as well.