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  • POLL: Shall we only support 1024*768 onwards?

    Hi all,

    as we have some problems for graphical decisions in this thread I thought let's run a poll to see what a majority of the people think. Please also feel free to post your opinion here.

    This will not be a binding result, just, me thinks, it would be good to have a better/broader picture.
    23
    Yes, let's drop the lower resolution
    60.87%
    14
    No, we shall still have it.
    39.13%
    9
    Abstain/Banana
    0.00%
    0

  • #2
    No, as many resolutions as possible should be supported, we should aim to make the game as resolution-independent as possible. (Some restrictions will undoubtably be inevitable, there's no reason to give up before we even started.)
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    • #3
      I understand your point of view Locutus but if there are no technical issues with lower end computers I don't see why we should limit ourselves because of the 800x600 resolution.
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      • #4
        Since i can play it on a P233 4meg graphics card at 1024*768 then i dont mind not supporting lower.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Tamerlin
          I understand your point of view Locutus but if there are no technical issues with lower end computers I don't see why we should limit ourselves because of the 800x600 resolution.
          That's the whole point: it SHOULDN'T be a limit. Why can't we design the UI such that both 800x600 and 1600x1200 users get the most of the UI? One group shouldn't have to suffer from the other...
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          • #6
            Is the debate over the size of the city manager screen the only reason we're considering dumping 800x600? If so, that doesn't seem like a good enough reason by itself.

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            • #7
              Not only because of this, but as I said, getting general feedback in general.

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              • #8
                I voted yes - i speak as the owner of the most feeble computer anyone here(and maybe in the world!) runs CTP2 on.
                Ok 1024x768 pushes my system to its limits, but it can do it.
                If it solves issues over the Ui design then its got to be helpfull?

                I suppose one day its possible i might have a less powerfull machine.....for playing the ancient classics i cant get to run now(the DOS only stuff), but i wont be aiming to run CTP2 on it so it wont matter

                my p166 2mb graphics card 48Mb ram system runs in 1024x768 fine

                lets think that we could be here for another few years on this game and that you cant buy a new pc that cant handle 1024x768.

                Locutus+ One Present, what exactly are you worried about in droping 800x600? I need more info from you guys to change my mind
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                • #9
                  If we stop supporting it we will only lose newbies.

                  Plus ctp2 is currently in the cheep end of the market and most people with low spec machines buy them.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by The Big Mc
                    If we stop supporting it we will only lose newbies.

                    Plus ctp2 is currently in the cheep end of the market and most people with low spec machines buy them.
                    Big MC, have you read CoT's specs???????????

                    You can't really get lower than this.

                    And myself I am running a 300MHz machine. I think CoT and me have the oldests beasts around.............or better to say antique ones

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                    • #11
                      Child of Thor spec is old and if child of Thor has the bigger resolution the game will probably go as fast as a asthmatic ant with heavy shopping while playing the bigger maps.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by child of Thor

                        Locutus+ One Present, what exactly are you worried about in droping 800x600? I need more info from you guys to change my mind
                        IMO design, in this case visual design, should rarely be the determining factor. Just because we want to move the bells and whistles around shouldn't rule out something as critical as lower resolution.

                        Let's not fix the things that aren't broken.

                        or

                        Let's not throw out the baby with the bath water.

                        or

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by The Big Mc
                          If we stop supporting it we will only lose newbies.

                          Plus ctp2 is currently in the cheep end of the market and most people with low spec machines buy them.
                          true but how low spec is low spec? - i think i'm running the game with the minimum specs(p166) and the resolution isnt an issue, even if end games get sooo slloooooow

                          most newbies will have new computers no? heck most people who use their pc for games will have one at least as powerful as mine - it was really hard to find such a low spec pc, so i'm finding it hard to think we would lose loads of people cause they cant display 1024x768? even the 15" monitor i use can handle it

                          @ One Present - i hear you and it makes perfect sense to approach from that angle.

                          still if going up to 1024x768 as a minimum only effects 1 person in 1000(out my ass) but makes it easier to design a decent UI that can hold all the info we want in the nicest looking way. Then why stick with 800x600 and have to crunch things, or make it more complicted by having maybe two different designs which would also mean most likely two explanations in the manual on how to use each one? plus i think it would be a bit confusing having two different styles, at the moment its fine as nothing changes except that the sprites get smaller + the world view bigger

                          I'm just wondering who the 800x600 is for, especialy these days?
                          Last edited by child of Thor; April 22, 2004, 10:00.
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                          • #14
                            the game will probably go as fast as a asthmatic ant with heavy shopping
                            had to read it a few times.
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                            • #15
                              on the large maps it sure does go that slow - i usualy go make a cup of tea, or walk the dog in truth on this machine i stick to small or medium maps

                              but it doesnt effect the resolution......
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