Alternate player colours for 1.2 beta

[Gilgamensch]

My 2 cents:

1.) Babarians shall have the nice ugly bright red, so that you just can't miss them (The arrow might be a nice add on )

2.) Players choosing their colour: Completly free, or from a pre-given table (which I think would be easier to implement).

3.)

Player colours should be different and distinguishable from each other on the main map.
Player colours should be different and distinguishable from each other on the mini map in land/water mode (all terrain mode is too cluttered to worry about).

Agreed

MP I haven't played, so can't comment

[Maquiladora]

I would rather see no change to players 0-4 (in 'order' or 'colour'), im very familiar with these colours (in SP and MP) and so are many others im sure, and in MP its a running joke for the person who gets that ever-so-feminine, PINK. Fear them

As for selecting colours, will this be made part of MP options too?

[The Big Mc]

It would be an idea.


I thought of a custom civ to but that would have to be stored in a save game making the game none backwards compatible with the original

[Gilgamensch]

Originally posted by Maquiladora
I would rather see no change to players 0-4 (in 'order' or 'colour'), im very familiar with these colours (in SP and MP) and so are many others im sure, and in MP its a running joke for the person who gets that ever-so-feminine, PINK. Fear them

I think the only reason why you don't want to have it changed, so that you can always (still) take the PINK

[Locutus]

This thread inspired me to design a 2nd version of my own colour set. I can't upload it right now due to some Internet connection problems (not on my own pc now), but I stole borrowed some of the nicest colours of Flinx's and Martin's colour sets (mostly Flinx's actually) to make sure all colours are even easier to distinguish from each other. I'm not 100% done but it looks really nice so far (nice colours too, some of my existing ones worked well but were butt ugly, I have far fewer of those now). I'm still playing around with the order of the colours, but no doubt to Maq's delight the first 8 are almost identical to the original set (most colours have a somewhat different tint and I replaced one of the pink/purpleish colours with yellow but otherwise they're pretty much the same). I don't know if others want to use it but I'm quite happy with the set myself. I don't like to brag but it's the best one I've seen so far in 5+ years of CtP history.

I'll upload the set as soon as possible.

I like the option of choosing colours, but I agree with Gilg it should probably be from a set list. Not because of implementation concerns, but to make sure all colours a player can choose from are sufficiently different, thus protecting them from getting the kind of headaches Flinx, Martin and I are getting now

[Martin Gühmann]

Re: Summarising and Suggesting a Compromise.

Originally posted by Flinx
The player should be able to choose (at least one) version of the major colours: red, orange, yellow, green, blue, purple, and brown.

That's why 0xFF0000 can't be Barbarian.

-Martin

[Tamerlin]

Originally posted by Maquiladora
...and in MP its a running joke for the person who gets that ever-so-feminine, PINK. Fear them

I DON'T WANNA BE MISTER PINK!!!

[Tamerlin]

Originally posted by Locutus
I don't know if others want to use it but I'm quite happy with the set myself. I don't like to brag but it's the best one I've seen so far in 5+ years of CtP history.

Yes, I would like to use your colors... as Maquiladora I like the original colors and especially the blue for the human player and the red for the barbarians. I must admit, as you suggested it yourself, that I am used to the original colors for the other civs.

I like the option of choosing colours, but I agree with Gilg it should probably be from a set list.

I agree but I suppose that designing a new interface for choosing the colors when you start a game is not an easy task...

[Locutus]

Originally posted by Tamerlin
I DON'T WANNA BE MISTER PINK!!!

How Tarantinesque


Anyway, I seem to have fixed my connection problems (for the moment anyway), so I will post my new colour set. Here are the HMTL table and a screenshot of units with the new colour set.

0	1	2
3	4	5
6	7	8
9	10	11
12	13	14
15	16	17
18	19	20
21	22	23
24	25	26
27	28	29
30	31	32

[Locutus]

Note that all colours are readable in all parts of the game AFAIK. The anthracite colour is slightly harder to read than the other colours in the chat box, but it's still readable. But that doesn't really matter anyway until we want to start supporting MP games with 16+ players...

Screenshots of the minimap: cities at the top, units at the bottom.

[Locutus]

Note that to make some of the colours a little bit more readable in the listbox of the Powergraph screen, I changed to colour of the background pattern ever so slightly. If you're not looking for it, you probably won't even notice the difference, but it helps a lot with making the civ names more readable. (Only exceptions are yellow and creme-white, they are still hard to read by deafult, but they *are* perfectly readable if you select them).

The file goes in ctp_data\default\graphics\pictures (doesn't overwrite any existing files so you can try it at your leisure and delete it if you don't like it).

[Locutus]

And finally there's the colour file itself. Note that I also made the grassland colour on the minimap a teeny tiny bit greener -- again, you probably won't notice the difference but it helps to make some colours stand out more.

[Locutus]

Oh, here's one more screenie that shows the contrast between the white text and the various colours (assuming the converting to JPEG doesn't screw it up).

[Gilgamensch]

Good choice.

My suggestion let's take it as default.

[Tamerlin]

I have quickly tested the new colors and they are fine... to the exception of the yellow color. It is almost impossible to read the name of the civilization in the "rankings" windows (Wonders, Military, Science, etc.) unless you highlight the name itself. Not really a big issue but an issue nonetheless. I don't know if it has an effect on the said windows but I have tested the colors with the uptg06e.tga file.