DESIGN: More Barbarians

[Peter Triggs]

Good point. I guess we'd have to decrease the unhappiness penalty for slave raids.

[Maquiladora]

Well it could have some other factors, like they only emigrate to civs that are in a different/peaceful government with the current civ's regime theyre leaving.

[Peter Triggs]

It stiil seems like an exploit: to counter it we could have it so that they only emigrate from cities that are not 'watchful'. Slave raids would then cause short term unhappiness but only the big political and economic factors would cause emigration.

[SMIFFGIG]

I would be happy with the following:

-Barbarian camps like in Civ3 (now this was a really nice idea)

-Barbarian leaders like in Civ2 (they where fun)

-Barbarian huge hordes (option of course) like in civ2 where they would appear in non city radius squares

-Large barbarian landing parties from the OCEAN (something the AI seems to currently be able to use)

-Barbarian specific units like previously mentioned would be superb

-Later in game the barbarians upgrade of course and later become terrorists and behave slightly different to barbarians (possibly doing more covert rather than overt operations like destroying city improvements and other spy like ablities)




There are some great features in Civ3 that would make CtP2 a much better game, but i believe there is just as much from Civ2 also

[Ekmek]

SMIFFGIG great ideas (havent seen you in awhile...)

I also liked in Civ1 when the Barbarian leader could bribe your unit (it happened only once or twice when I kept t he barb pinned somewhere)

The immigration idea would be cool, even if we used the civ3 worker to just walk accross the map as it immigrates.

You could also have refugees and when they sit on your tile you cant use it but attacking them creates a reputation hit and unhappiness (especially in late games)