archipelago const.txt

[thistleknot]

UPDATE:
WORKS WITH CRADLE MOD, SORRY...

I want to be able to generate a pacific islands type of map.

I started messing with some settings with const.txt, but I'm not having much luck getting it to produce maps with a lot of islands (I'm hoping to produce 20-30 small islands).

I'd prefer about 15-25% water, and the rest small land masses.

I got the idea to edit const.txt from

http://apolyton.net/showthread.php/55346-Modifying-terrain-in-CTP2

http://apolyton.net/showthread.php/17964-Map-Settings-Const-txt

I may have found my answer in this

http://www.ctp2.info/database/text/calltopower2/ctp2_data/default/gamedata/Const/

[thistleknot]

No matter what I do, I can't seem to get the amount of water to reduce without flooding the map with land... and when I do that, the land connects to each other to form lakes... I really want the water to interleave between the land masses

[Martin Gühmann]

Maybe, MIN_CONTINENT_START_SIZE in const.txt could be something. But probably, you have to explore the map.txt for more stuff.

-Martin

[thistleknot]

I GOT IT!

Thanks for pointing me to map.txt (I remember this file from an earlier Cradle)

thank god...

http://tinypic.com/m/fu9swj/4

upon furthernote

percent_land
percent_continent
and
percent_homogenous

don't do a damn thing to my maps when I set them from 0 to 100. The values taht did stuff are all defined in map.txt

The most important was
MAP_NUM_CONTINENTS 800

1000 for some reason would produce a lot of land and mountains ontop of it

so would setting map min and map max_subcontintents to too high (couldn't go higher than 12 for min and 24 for max)

also setting map bump_size too high would also create a lot of mountains...

Produces good maps

ocean to land was set at 3 from the left

map.txt
## Super Large Map

MAP_SIZE 150 300 {
# Very Large(Gigantic) Map - 0% Continents/Islands
{
MAP_NUM_CONTINENTS 800 ##from 50
MAP_MIN_WIDTH 8
MAP_MIN_HEIGHT 8
MAP_MAX_WIDTH 12
MAP_MAX_HEIGHT 12
MAP_BUMP_SIZE 24
MAP_MIN_SUBCONTINENTS 6 ##from 6
MAP_MAX_SUBCONTINENTS 12 ##from 12
MAP_SUBCONTINENT_SIZE 0.6
MAP_SUBCONTINENT_HEIGHT 0.6
MAP_BORDER_SIZE 15
MAP_FAULT_LINES 0
MAP_FAULT_LENGTH 1.0
MAP_NS_BORDER_SIZE 5
}


good as well (produces larger continent sized areas, albeit with more ocean...)
## Super Large Map

MAP_SIZE 100 200 {
# Very Large(Gigantic) Map - 0% Continents/Islands
{
MAP_NUM_CONTINENTS 800 ##from 50
MAP_MIN_WIDTH 10
MAP_MIN_HEIGHT 10
MAP_MAX_WIDTH 20
MAP_MAX_HEIGHT 20
MAP_BUMP_SIZE 20
MAP_MIN_SUBCONTINENTS 1 ##from 6
MAP_MAX_SUBCONTINENTS 3 ##from 12
MAP_SUBCONTINENT_SIZE 0.6
MAP_SUBCONTINENT_HEIGHT 0.6
MAP_BORDER_SIZE 15
MAP_FAULT_LINES 0
MAP_FAULT_LENGTH 1.0
MAP_NS_BORDER_SIZE 5
}

good too
## Super Large Map

MAP_SIZE 100 200 {
# Very Large(Gigantic) Map - 0% Continents/Islands
{
MAP_NUM_CONTINENTS 800 ##from 50
MAP_MIN_WIDTH 10
MAP_MIN_HEIGHT 10
MAP_MAX_WIDTH 16
MAP_MAX_HEIGHT 16
MAP_BUMP_SIZE 20
MAP_MIN_SUBCONTINENTS 4 ##from 6
MAP_MAX_SUBCONTINENTS 6 ##from 12
MAP_SUBCONTINENT_SIZE 0.6
MAP_SUBCONTINENT_HEIGHT 0.6
MAP_BORDER_SIZE 15
MAP_FAULT_LINES 0
MAP_FAULT_LENGTH 1.0
MAP_NS_BORDER_SIZE 5
}

[thistleknot]

I've settled on this

## Super Large Map

MAP_SIZE 100 200 {
# Very Large(Gigantic) Map - 0% Continents/Islands
{
MAP_NUM_CONTINENTS 800 ##from 50
MAP_MIN_WIDTH 8
MAP_MIN_HEIGHT 8
MAP_MAX_WIDTH 16
MAP_MAX_HEIGHT 16
MAP_BUMP_SIZE 20
MAP_MIN_SUBCONTINENTS 6 ##from 6
MAP_MAX_SUBCONTINENTS 12 ##from 12
MAP_SUBCONTINENT_SIZE 0.5
MAP_SUBCONTINENT_HEIGHT 0.5
MAP_BORDER_SIZE 15
MAP_FAULT_LINES 0
MAP_FAULT_LENGTH 1.0
MAP_NS_BORDER_SIZE 5
}

[Poddighe]

I want to be able to reproduce this map, what can I do?
I'm actually running Call to Power 2 + Apolyton CTP2 Edition: Revision 1111
I have edited the file map.txt located in C:/ProgramFiles/Activision/Call to Power 2/ctp_data/default/gamedata
overwriting only this piece of text:

## Super Large Map

MAP_SIZE 100 200 {
# Very Large(Gigantic) Map - 0% Continents/Islands
{
MAP_NUM_CONTINENTS 800 ##from 50
MAP_MIN_WIDTH 8
MAP_MIN_HEIGHT 8
MAP_MAX_WIDTH 16
MAP_MAX_HEIGHT 16
MAP_BUMP_SIZE 20
MAP_MIN_SUBCONTINENTS 6 ##from 6
MAP_MAX_SUBCONTINENTS 12 ##from 12
MAP_SUBCONTINENT_SIZE 0.5
MAP_SUBCONTINENT_HEIGHT 0.5
MAP_BORDER_SIZE 15
MAP_FAULT_LINES 0
MAP_FAULT_LENGTH 1.0
MAP_NS_BORDER_SIZE 5
}

But I just cant' get the same map, maybe I'm missing some step.

[thistleknot]

gigantic and land/water slider set to 3 from the left

[Poddighe]

I get this...

(I'm sending you a PM cause I can't post IMG link)

Lol i can't send PM too :P

Anyway, I'm sure I'm doing something wrong, but I don't know what it is...

[thistleknot]

my bad

the key is here

# Very Large(Gigantic) Map - 0% Continents/Islands

it should be all the way to the left for no continents as well.

hmm...

I tried it with ae edition.

I need to update my first post

This only worked for me inside cradle mod

inside ae, I would prolly have to do some more tweaking.

I also had to go into const.txt and set the map size to 100 200 (didn't have to with cradle)

[thistleknot]

I was redoing my mod of cradle iv and realized the issues Poddighe was having (I recommend a winmerge comparison to ensure you don't copy everything!)
here's my const

http://pastebin.com/NdizeZyb

Here's a pic of the aftermath with what's needed in the map file

http://tinypic.com/m/hrypg4/4

Here's a diff of the two files (1st set of changes are the changes I used, so the diff is actually backwards)
5,7c5,7
< PERCENT_LAND 85 ## how much of the world is land (from 40)
< PERCENT_CONTINENT 75 ## how much of the world tends toward big continents verses small islands (WW from 50)
< PERCENT_HOMOGENOUS 50 ## how "clumpy" the land terrain is (from 55)
---
> PERCENT_LAND 45 # how much of the world is land (from 40)
> PERCENT_CONTINENT 70 # how much of the world tends toward big continents verses small islands (WW from 50)
> PERCENT_HOMOGENOUS 5 ## how "clumpy" the land terrain is (from 55)
74,75c74,75
< PERCENT_MOUNTAIN 3 # percetage of land with mountain on it - this is a target only (WW from 5)
< MOUNTAIN_CELL 2 # length of a side of a cell - one cell contains at most 1 mountain chain. (WW from 5)
---
> PERCENT_MOUNTAIN 7 # percetage of land with mountain on it - this is a target only (WW from 5)
> MOUNTAIN_CELL 4 # length of a side of a cell - one cell contains at most 1 mountain chain. (WW from 5)
78,79c78,79
< MOUNTAIN_SPREAD 12 # chance that the mountain chain spreads out (from 25)
< MOUNTAIN_LENGTH 2 # average length of a mountain chain (from 25)
---
> MOUNTAIN_SPREAD 60 # chance that the mountain chain spreads out (from 25)
> MOUNTAIN_LENGTH 8 # average length of a mountain chain (from 25)
86,88c86,88
< PERCENT_FOREST 45
< PERCENT_GRASS 60 #from 40
< PERCENT_PLAINS 40 #from 25
---
> PERCENT_FOREST 20
> PERCENT_GRASS 90 #from 40
> PERCENT_PLAINS 35 #from 25
95c95
< NICE_RADIUS 30 # radius of effect when calculating niceness of player placement
---
> NICE_RADIUS 10 # radius of effect when calculating niceness of player placement
110c110
< AVERAGE_POLLUTION_TURNS 20
---
> AVERAGE_POLLUTION_TURNS 5
158c158
< SPIED_UPON_WARINESS_TIMER 28 # How many turns a spied upon city gets increased wariness
---
> SPIED_UPON_WARINESS_TIMER 7 # How many turns a spied upon city gets increased wariness
176c176
< WATCHFUL_CITY_TURNS 28 # how long a city remains watchful
---
> WATCHFUL_CITY_TURNS 7 # how long a city remains watchful
178,179c178,179
< BIO_INFECTION_TURNS 20
< NANO_INFECTION_TURNS 20
---
> BIO_INFECTION_TURNS 5
> NANO_INFECTION_TURNS 5
235,237c235,237
< WORMHOLE_RETURN_TIME 20 # unused
< WORMHOLE_VISIBLE_TO_ALL_TURNS 20 # unused
< MAX_GOVERNMENT_CHANGE_TURNS 20 # from 4
---
> WORMHOLE_RETURN_TIME 5 # unused
> WORMHOLE_VISIBLE_TO_ALL_TURNS 5 # unused
> MAX_GOVERNMENT_CHANGE_TURNS 5 # from 4
243c243
< EMANCIPATION_UNHAPPINESS_TURNS 20
---
> EMANCIPATION_UNHAPPINESS_TURNS 5
259c259
< ATTACK_CONVERTER_UNHAPPINESS_TURNS 20
---
> ATTACK_CONVERTER_UNHAPPINESS_TURNS 5
289c289
< MAX_REQUESTS_PER_PLAYER_PER_TURN 20
---
> MAX_REQUESTS_PER_PLAYER_PER_TURN 6
300c300
< MAP_SIZE_GIGANTIC 150 300 2
---
> MAP_SIZE_GIGANTIC 100 200 2