CTP2: HotSeat okay ... PBEM no!

[Pit Dralon]

hello,

after installing CTP2 (german) and the official patch 1.11, i edited the spnewgame.ldl for play-by-e-mail and hotseat.

hotseat ist working so far, but PBEM stops creating savegame-files on the desktop after turn 0 ... means:
no CTP Email To Player1 (Turn 1).c2g
tested on 2 different win98SE-machines with 1,1 and 1,3 GHZ CPUs and 256 / 512 MB of RAM. tried it even on small map, with 2 humans and 1 AI - no success.

is this problem a known one? any ideas for solving this?

another little problem is the sometimes missing prompt to the next active unit. do i have to live with that?

best regards

[Maquiladora]

Hotseat and PBEM were not fully working in the 1.11 version of the game.

If you use the CtP2 Apolyton Edition Hotseat and PBEM should work much better.

You can download the Apolyton Edition here: http://ctp2files.apolyton.net/source/

[Pit Dralon]

thx for your fast posting. tried that apolyton edition right now - nice starting screen
but no change in the problem. PBEM for two players on a small map. player 1 ... player 2 ... and then it's over. no new saved game on the desktop

[Maquiladora]

Originally posted by Pit Dralon
thx for your fast posting. tried that apolyton edition right now - nice starting screen
but no change in the problem. PBEM for two players on a small map. player 1 ... player 2 ... and then it's over. no new saved game on the desktop

Did you enter all the information it asks for?

Email for player 1 and 2 (you don't need to use a real one though)
Name for each player etc.

It works fine for me.

You will need to start the game again if you started it with 1.11.

[Pit Dralon]

i think so.
2 human players, names, no real email ...
created a new PBEM for testing.

player A does its turn and creates "CTP2 Email To B (Turn 1).c2g" on desktop. player B plays this file and creates "CTP2 Email To B (Turn 1).c2g" on desktop. after that, no new file will be created.

2 players on a small map same as 8 players on a huge map.
same as before with 1.11.
same as on the machine of my girl friend.

[Martin Gühmann]

Originally posted by Pit Dralon
player A does its turn and creates "CTP2 Email To B (Turn 1).c2g" on desktop. player B plays this file and creates "CTP2 Email To B (Turn 1).c2g" on desktop. after that, no new file will be created.

And you didn't load the game from player B?

-Martin

[Maquiladora]

Originally posted by Pit Dralon
i think so.
2 human players, names, no real email ...
created a new PBEM for testing.

player A does its turn and creates "CTP2 Email To B (Turn 1).c2g" on desktop. player B plays this file and creates "CTP2 Email To B (Turn 1).c2g" on desktop. after that, no new file will be created.

2 players on a small map same as 8 players on a huge map.
same as before with 1.11.
same as on the machine of my girl friend.

Strange, I tested it just now and it worked fine.

It shouldn't matter but how did you install the Apolyton Edition? Over a clean installation or over the 1.11 installation?

Also did you give the 2 players different email addresses and names?

[Pit Dralon]

Originally posted by Martin Gühmann
And you didn't load the game from player B?

-Martin

sorry, little mistake

player A does its turn and creates "CTP2 Email To B (Turn 1).c2g" on desktop. player B plays this file and creates "CTP2 Email To A (Turn 1).c2g" on desktop. after that, no new file will be created.

Originally posted by Maquiladora
It shouldn't matter but how did you install the Apolyton Edition? Over a clean installation or over the 1.11 installation?

Also did you give the 2 players different email addresses and names?

installed it over a 1.11

yes, different names, different email (not real ones ... without @)

[Maquiladora]

Originally posted by Pit Dralon

installed it over a 1.11

yes, different names, different email (not real ones ... without @)

I would try reinstalling CtP2 and just the Apolyton Edition, without the 1.11 patch.

[Martin Gühmann]

Originally posted by Pit Dralon
player A does its turn and creates "CTP2 Email To B (Turn 1).c2g" on desktop. player B plays this file and creates "CTP2 Email To A (Turn 1).c2g" on desktop. after that, no new file will be created.

Then load "CTP2 Email To A (Turn 1).c2g". By the way the first turn is turn 0, but it changes if player A ends turn. Actually it should change when the last player changes its turn.

-Martin

[Martin Gühmann]

Originally posted by Maquiladora
I would try reinstalling CtP2 and just the Apolyton Edition, without the 1.11 patch.

When it has been done then it doesn't matter anymore.

-Martin

[Maquiladora]

Originally posted by Martin Gühmann

When it has been done then it doesn't matter anymore.

-Martin

I know it shouldn't, but I don't see what else could be wrong. That is if he is doing it right.

[Martin Gühmann]

Originally posted by Maquiladora
I know it shouldn't, but I don't see what else could be wrong. That is if he is doing it right.

Well there could be a problem in the code, but I looked up the save naming and apart from that it names the first turn "turn 1" instead of "turn 0", there is no problem. I also checked the turn count progression and it is advanced as it should, well if you don't mess up with the cheat editor.

So now is the latter case is left, that he does something wrong.

-Martin

P.S. I made it so that the first save game now says again "turn 0"

[Pit Dralon]

@ martin:
that was my problem:
file names with "Turn 0" appear only during the original game and with patch 1.11

but let me explain ... i tried again a new game - only 2 players:
player A = Amerikaner
leader = Ami
mail = ami@yahoo.de

player B = Brasilianer
leader =Baby
mail = baby@yahoo.de

the game starts with round #1. player A plays his turn, and after finishing, a file is created on desktop:
CTP2 Email To baby@yahoo.de (Turn 1).c2g

player B plays this file. after that, a new file is created:
CTP2 Email To ami@yahoo.de (Turn 1).c2g

player A plays this file. but after finishing, there's no new file created. the old file "CTP2 Email To baby@yahoo.de (Turn 1).c2g" is overwritten.*

player B plays this file, and a new file has been created:
CTP2 Email To ami@yahoo.de (Turn 2).c2g

* this was my problem - i missed the newly created file. how should i know that this one file is getting overwritten?

thank you both for your quick help.
pit

PS:
my advice for numbering the files:
the first human player starts the game - he needs no desktop file.
all human players except the first one play round 1 files.
after finishing their turn and leaving the game, all human players create round 1 files - except the last human who creates a turn 2 file, which is played by the first human player.

[Martin Gühmann]

Originally posted by Pit Dralon
file names with "Turn 0" appear only during the original game

And the next playtest will do it again. (As I said)

Originally posted by Pit Dralon
* this was my problem - i missed the newly created file. how should i know that this one file is getting overwritten?

Actually the overwrite stuff shouldn't happen, I have to test wheater the problem still exists afterwards I made the above change.

-Martin