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**Mr Ogre** · July 18, 1999, 23:31

Yes, you can show the value of a variable in a string. Use [counter.value] for your example. Works for ints, locations (x,y,z), units (type of unit), and cities (name of city).

TP · July 19, 1999, 01:53

Mr. Ogre,

How could I ever think that you have not implemented such a thing from the start ? Thank you very much for your answer.

To all others,

I am going to make the PowerSLICs with this information a bit more sexy. However as I will be out for a workshop during the next three days, it's going to get a bit silent from my side. But there is going to be at least PowerSLICs 2.0 soon. Is there a German who can translate my German strings into English please ?

With Regards from a happy TP

**Depp** · July 19, 1999, 08:12

I started with a demographic SLIC program as well, and will probably continue with it too. It goes along the same lines as yours but are somewhat different. And in english of course....

TP · July 19, 1999, 15:41

Depp,

Came back this evening and just couldn't wait to try showing values of user-defined variables in strings. So I tried it.

It may seem like I am a complete idiot, however, I just can't seem to make it work. Let's have a look at what I tried as an example:

SCRIPT.SLC:

trigger 'TP_T_Warning_Public_Works' when (IsHumanPlayer(g.player) && (player.publicworkslevel >= 1500)) {
pwl = player.publicworkslevel;
Message(g.player, 'TP_M_Warning_Public_Works');
}

messagebox 'TP_M_Warning_Public_Works' {
Title(ID_TP_TITLE_Warning_Public_Works);
Text(ID_TP_TEXT_Warning_Public_Works);
}

INFO_STR.TXT:
TP_TITLE_Warning_Public_Works "Public Work Status"
TP_TEXT_Warning_Public_Works "Dumbhead, you have currently [pwl.value] units of public work available. GO AND SPEND IT !"

It even does not work if I define just for experimental reasons pwl with a specific value, e.g pwl = 500; neither do I have success with [pwl], [pwl.1.value] or other combinations.

I feel currently quite a bit lost here. Do you have the same issue ?

TP

**Depp** · July 19, 1999, 17:45

Exactly the same problem. I have had that since the first night when i posted that someone should do it, I did it the same night but i couldn´t get a number, and 2 days later i read Mr Ogres responce to you and got to it imidiatly, but i felt like a complete idot, it didn't work whatever i did.

I tried to do some more stuff to improve it but those strings (like [player.1.civ]) wouldn´t work either although i used the setplayer command to define player.1 as the active player.... wierd

I sent a question earlier to Mr Ogre but have gotten no answer, hopes he reads this really soon.

Hey TP, maybe we should kind unite our efforts for a while, or something. And them we can translate our various efforts for each other, since i suck at german (im swedish by the way).

You can reach me at joanyg-6@student.luth.se or my ICQ # is 1131079

I thought we could implement random events after this, like in civ 2.

Even vulcanos should be possible with some nice terrain coding, and alot of other things as well. But i will install photoshop again soon and try to make some more icons for the ranking and maybe random events...

Well, im gonna wait for Mr Ogre, but tomorrow im gonna build a cabin with me father, but maybe tonight i will code some more. I just want the ranking to be so nice so it looks like it was implemented from the beginning.

Good night, sweden :-)

**Mr Ogre** · July 20, 1999, 02:08

What you wrote looks right. I think the problem MAY be that you need to go into userprofile.txt and switch to DebugSlic=Yes. When it's set to No, the names of variables and other symbols that aren't normally needed after parsing get tossed out to save a little bit of memory. Unfortunately, the string parsing needs those names for [*.value] to work.

Sorry 'bout that. I haven't tested it, I'm writing this from home, and the only code I have handy is pretty old. I'll check it in the morning.

TP · July 20, 1999, 13:30

Mr. Ogre,

Thanks for answering (me and Depp really appreciate that you are in constant communication with us, even off-Activions days). I checked it shortly. Seems like switching to DebugSlic=Yes makes *.value possible. Depp, can you confirm ?

Depp,

Good idea to unite Sweden and Germany for SLIC Modification. As I will be only looking for messages for the next days, I propose that we share our latest efforts on "SLICing" on Saturday morning (via email). I'll send you my stuff and vice versa. Ok with you ?

TP

**Depp** · July 20, 1999, 13:56

All works great now! Thanks! Just some more questions

Mr Ogre:
Is there no SetPlayerByIndex? Just want to have all the players as they started to be able to use all their names in the demographics... (and know how many they are)

I noticed that player.1.gold worked but player.1.discoveries gave the number 148 (total number of advances????), when i had researched 10/70, what does it really show? is there any other variable for the amount of sciences one have discovered or must one check each and every with HasAdvance(player, advance_name)?
Which by the way i didn´t get to work, even this didn´t work
if HasAdvance(g.player, ADVANCE_AGRICULTURE) {
code
}
this never happend, what´s wrong? i tried changing everything...

And the total pop? must one sum all from the cites or? I thought since it is displayed everyturn it must be a variable...

More, Land. Is there a variable for the amount of land owned or?

Can one change the size of messageboxes or have multiple textcommandos in the same window (i have tried but failed)

Sorry for being such a pain in the ***, I just wanna do the best demographic i can.!

TP: Sure why not What is your emailadress? It´s not in your profile (mine is).
Im gonna continue work on the demographics since i have alot of ideas to add and stuff to make. I saw your ToDo List and maybe one should add library link when traded discovery also, i think that might be easy with the discovery.traded variable.
But that´s for later. Then it´s a dream of mine to make random events, like in civ 2 but more of them, and they should hit people with large empires more often, and maybe even a barbarian overtaking of one small city or something, if the capturecity function is implimented later.
I think someone mentioned population movements earlier in this forum, like people moving from unhappy cities to happy cities, just 1 POP at random, just so it really hurts to have unhappy people when someone has a flat 100 happiness...

Thanks again

[This message has been edited by Depp aproximatly 5 million times, sigh!]

[This message has been edited by Depp (edited July 21, 1999).]

**Depp** · July 21, 1999, 18:56

Just bumping this topic so the questions doesn´t go unanswered

TP · July 21, 1999, 19:26

Nice try, Depp :-)

You'll get my PowerSLICs 1.5 beta code on Saturday for additional input (I'll send it directly to your email-address as I do not like to see my address printed here). I plan to make following changes:

- Better ranking (actually two different ranking message types)
- GL link within "Goody hut gives you advance" message
- Synchronisation fixes for warfare (so you can't guess fight results by looking at icons being displayed too early=
- Interface work on PW warning

Random events sounds absolutely great. But I think before we go into coding on this, we should try and collect some ideas on random events before (I think there is plenty of material here in the forum + on the Civ3 wishlist).

TP

**Big Dave** · July 22, 1999, 09:23

TP, guessing at why you don't want your email address listed here (spammers) I can tell you that UBB is set up so that spambots can not access your email address.

As for random events, volcano's would be nice, possibly a slave revolt (city with the largest slave population and lowest happiness looses half it's slave population), floods (not like the eco-disaster, but a local flood of one river (see also Egypt and the Nile)that lasts a turn, costs 1 population from the city affected (if pop greater than one) and halves food and production in the tiles affected, then doubles food production for 3 turns afterwards), rivers changing course (can this and the next idea be done in SLIC?), maybe new rivers being created. And Barbarians should not just be set up at the start of the game, they should randomly occur throughout the game up to a certain point, maybe the Diamond age. Can this be done with SLIC?

Well, enough rambling, what do you think?

**Big Dave** · July 25, 1999, 20:47

Hey, TP, thanks to you and Dom for the new script. I just have a a question and a comment. On the unused PW could you raise that to 2500? It takes about 2200 to put a Megamine in the mountains and I don't want to get nagged while I'm saving up for that, or if I have a bunch of Corporate Branches out bringing in 3000+ PW a turn.

Also, I'd rather #include than copy and paste your script into script.slc but I'm not sure how to do that. I'm going to go look it up, but you might want to modify your instructions to include that info.

One of the things I'd like to see mod makers do is standardize how the mods are done. So every mod maker would ship a custom units.txt and script.slc named (for example) TP_script.slc or CD_units.txt and unzip all custom mod files into modified directories (e.g. CD_{directory name}). This way a simple batch file can switch between mods quickly and easily. Original data never gets overwritten, etc. Hopefully, this will be address in the next patch. Mr. Ogre said that the scenarios will be, but I don't know about the mods.

Me personally, I want to write a scenario that is just about the Roman, Greek, Assyrian, etc, empires and takes place around the Mediteranean Sea. Obviously I don't want to overwrite CD's mod, or Harlans, or your's when I do this....

Well, just some food for thought, thanks for reading.

Big Dave

**Depp** · July 26, 1999, 11:15

Why not raise the PW barrier every 100 turns or so?

Or maybe ask every 50th year if you wanna double it or something....

TP · July 27, 1999, 00:53

Big Dave / Depp,

After you have dowloaded my MOD (should be soon available on Apolyton), go into the "INSERT IN SCRIPT.SLC" file and look for the string

trigger 'TP_T_Warning_Public_Works' when (IsHumanPlayer(g.player) && (player.publicworkslevel >= 1500)) {

Just change the 1500 to whatever you want and it should work. For the next version of my PowerSLICs, I will implement something which will increase the "nagging level" with increased availability of expensive terrain improvement. I think such a feature would deliver against what you have requested.

#Including is not very difficult, however with my MOD you are forced to make changes to three text files (scripc.slc, info_str.txt and messageicon.txt). Only on the first one you can work with #including. So make backups of those files if you would like to restore them later. I think that should be manageable :-)

TP

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