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  • CTP2 code and Freeciv

    I am not a programmer so I'm not sure how hard it would be, but are there any Freeciv-ers who are looking forward to getting their hands on the CTP2 source code if/when it is released, and if so is there any feature you'd like to grab for a new version of Freeciv? In CTP, things like visible trade routes were kind of neat (though to be honest I haven't checked out the latest Freeciv build so it may have been added).

    Anyway, I just wanted to know if some of those "in the know" were planning on implementing aspects of CTP in Freeciv, and what features they might be. Thanks!

  • #2
    I very much doubt that the CTP2 source code will be useful to us. The chance that it will be released under a compatible license is IMHO low, and it is IIRC written in C++, while Freeciv is written in C.

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    • #3
      FWIW, the CTP2 source code is out, and the license is not open source. It is actually quite restrictive. I am not surprised.

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      • #4
        Cripes, I've just read the EULA. This hasn't anything to do with open source, this is the type of contract they would give to a studio doing a port. In this case, the customer (gamer) is the studio.


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        Last edited by CapTVK; October 30, 2003, 16:24.
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        • #5
          Per,

          I think it might be a good time to put out a developers statement on the Freeciv page that the CTP2 source cannot and may not be used with Freeciv.
          Skeptics should forego any thought of convincing the unconvinced that we hold the torch of truth illuminating the darkness. A more modest, realistic, and achievable goal is to encourage the idea that one may be mistaken. Doubt is humbling and constructive; it leads to rational thought in weighing alternatives and fully reexamining options, and it opens unlimited vistas.

          Elie A. Shneour Skeptical Inquirer

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          • #6
            I am not sure why, unless it is to educate people on the importance of reading the fine print, and why it is good to support really Free software.

            I don't think the so-called 'open source' CTP version is going anywhere. There's just too much cluelessness, naivity and license limits for that.

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