Logo

[Dominique]

Thx for this first feedback!

Last version for today:



Yes, right, the green was a bit too strong - tried it with blue this time; problem is that green at the same brightness looks more intense than red (that's why red light has such a soothing effect...).

Mark, your wife's idea concerning Ghengis and QE2 is very good... if now just someone could give me good PROFILE pictures of them? For now, I settle with Cleopatra, at least she's a woman

Furthermore, I inserted that small starfire in the middle to stress the "clash" aspect - and made the word "CLASH" chrome 3D, to stress it further as the "main title".

And, yes, about cluttering up: I came to the same conclusion when thinking about it... as I stated earlier on: Less is more.

[F Smith]

Wow:

Nice. Very nice.

[JimC]

Celopatra's eyes look good.... hard, determined, challenging....

Any pictures used should have clearly emphasised eyes, since they convey emotion so well.

Pericles without his pupils just looks, well, lifeless. (duh)

That was the first thing that struck me about the orcs vs humans picture in WC2 - the way they were eyeballing each other; starting each other down.

The red vs blue colour scheme is really good, although a metallic scheme might look better. I don't know. Are you going to post a 'library' of logos anywhere?

Jim

[Mark_Everson]

Lookin' Good.

My only change would be to make the "Civilizations" a little bit bigger. Jim's point about the eyes is good too. I'll try and surf the web for some images of Gengis and 'Liz when I get a chance.

[Glak]

As they look longingly into each other's eyes you can see the sparkle... love at first sight.

It'd be great if you could get a picture of Ghenghis but you won't. No one knows what he looked like.

[Hrafnkell]

Just a couple of comments,

first, I think the background color can be changed from the black it is now. I don´t know to what, maybe gray or yellow?

secondly, I don´t think we should make them metallic color because then we´re too close to the box-picture on the game Advanced Civilization (based on the original board-game), where the mask of Tut-ankammon and some Greek guy stare at each other.

[Dominique]

Great - I really love all of you commenting so freely; after all, we have to have a logo that most people simply LIKE.

- metallic: I, too, believe the figures shouldn't be metallic

- Ghengis Khan: No way of finding a 3D-pic of him. I found some drwan illustrations of Temujin, but that's it.

- Cleopatra: Strange, you all fell for it - of course it's Nofretete But here you can see one very important thing: It doesn't count that much if the persons on the logo really are great leaders etc. - all that counts is that people recognze them SOMEHOW and are familiar with the logo from the first glance

- "Love at first sight": I wouldn't reject the picture if it WERE this way... after all, a good civlike game CAN be quite warles and cooperative, right?

- for now, I'll try to give Pericles pupils, wonder how this will look like...

- "Civilization" will become bigger.

- color should be black, I think. It's a rule that most illustration look best on black background - that's why most photographers use it, and that's why most game sites on the web feature black pages, as well (ever noticed?).

Again, thx for the support. If we had some more graphics people here, they sure could come up with additional idias or sketches, but it doesn't look like it...

[Dominique]

Good morning (actually, it's afternoon over here in Germany)!

I redid it from scratch and hope it's a bit better now in some details - mainly Pericles' somewhat fierce expression



Btw., some not so unimportant aspect is how good you can scale down the logo, because we should be able to incorporate it in small form in the game itself, too - so it better be not too complicated. For now, even on 140 x 140 it's quite recognizable, I think (the original size I work with is 1024 x 1024):

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[Mark_Everson]

It looks great.

I looked around for QEI last night but couldn't come up with anything in profile.

I think Perilces looks a little too fierce, kinda like a raving lunatic. Perhaps just a dash of white nearer the nose. (those who can, do, those who can't criticise)

For a final I still think we need two more different time periods or cultures. I will look around and see Who can be come up with in profile.

My wife said "That's not Cleopatra, thats Nefertari", but we were too polite to correct you

Have Fun,

Mark

[Dominique]

Okay, I won't change anything now until someone comes up with a suitable image.

Of course, the IDEAL confrontation would be e.g.

- female, European, modern leader

vs.

- male, asian, ancient leader

But I feel it's more important to have that "yes, I recognize them!" feeling - as for Pericles, I'm sure no one will recognize him, but at least you recognize the image as that of an antique statue, giving the logo that sophisticated nuance

And while personalyity contrasts are fine, the IMAGES should be in harmony, i.e. either 2 oil paintings or 2 photographs or 2 statues. Mixing those types doesn't look convincing (and you can only do so much by image manipulation).

Kudos to your wife, Mark - she's got a sharp eye

[Dominique]

In spite of my "promise" to not change anything again, I now have the "final preliminary version".

Changes:
- "CLASH" gets a dark border again, because it's better readable this way

- all other letters with different (lighter) texture (better readable)

- Pericles now doesn't look like a maniac.

- Smaller version optimized to smooth circle




These versions should appear at the web site (entry page / all other pages).


[This message has been edited by Dominique (edited May 24, 1999).]

[Blade Runner]

Dominique,

The last version is really good looking. I can imagine I go to a computer shop and pick from the shelf.

Blade Runner

[Dominique]

Thanx Blade,

that's about the biggest compliment you can do towards someone who is used to do web graphics only normally

But, frankly, this is a PRELIMINARY version (until we have found the "ideal" motif).

[Druid2]

I looked at the last logo first. and I like it. But the font made me think that it was a "child of Civ" game. I'd suggest a change to something that does not so closely resemble the font used for the Microprose "Civilization".

[Dominique]

I thatought about that, too, but stayed with this one for 3 reasons:

1) Mark likes it

2) The font now used is "Times New Roman", so as well a widely known font (no "fancy font") as one fitting to the "classical" graphical theme.

3) Choosing such a common font makes it easier to create fitting headlines / text in game, manual, web site...

But certainly I could change that easily, if most people would like it.