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  • #16
    Kass, as you seem busy, I'll take the liberty of posting the speech Nicholas gives - if you don't mind!

    By the way, what are the impacts of Titan declaring independence? What will the EC exactly do?
    ... This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality...
    ... Pain is an illusion...

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    • #17
      Hey everyone,

      I really want to make a "New-Age" Hive symbol but don't know how. I don't know what software I can use but my comp is really old...like 1995 old. Is there some online graphics site that I can use or do I have to go through Windows Paintshop?

      I kinda wanted to stretch the Hive symbol a bit and add a couple more designs to it.


      Kass,

      Initial contact procedures have been sent (see latest post). When do you think you'll be able to post next? That way I have an idea when the contact ship will arrive in your space.
      Despot-(1a) : a ruler with absolute power and authority (1b) : a person exercising power tyrannically
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      "...but what sane person would move from Hawaii to Indiana?" -Dis

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      • #18
        I thought i made it clear with the Fraal before? :P Fraal doesn't choose sides and they have interesting in humanity as a whole, not only the Terrans. The Proginators and rest would know that....... Proginators currently doesn't care about humanity... as long as they don't interfere or find some interest in something in human space, like Manifold Six if they ever found out.... because they notice Fraal as an interest in humanity....due to some past experiences, they rather not annoy the Fraal again, who the most advance compare to everyone else in this part of the galaxy.

        Why would planetary bombarment be taboo: Fraal stories of past civilizations, other races and etc... basic general knowledge of the Proginators' history acquired by the chiron factions after fighting the proginators on Chiron........and confrmed by the Fraal.

        anyway, currently falling asleep.......

        -LMP

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        • #19
          Well for the shielding question we have several ways to go with space combat.

          We could with the Wing Commander 2 method where you have capital ships (destroyers and above) have shields that would have to be beat down with ship guns or torpedoed by fighters.

          We could go with the Starfire approach where the ships have shields, but the fighters carry enough firepower in the missiles to do some damage.

          We could go with the Babylon 5 approach

          I rather like the Stafire approach, we are talking about people who presumbly are using advance energy and advance equpiment, I think they could generate some sort of an Alpha Centuria Taychon field around their ship to help defend it,
          "I do think that it is important to realize that wars are ugly and vile and that there better be a damned good reason for getting involved in one. Because the price for somebody is going to be very, very high."

          David Weber

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          • #20
            Originally posted by [LordLMP]
            I thought i made it clear with the Fraal before? :P Fraal doesn't choose sides and they have interesting in humanity as a whole, not only the Terrans. The Proginators and rest would know that....... Proginators currently doesn't care about humanity... as long as they don't interfere or find some interest in something in human space, like Manifold Six if they ever found out.... because they notice Fraal as an interest in humanity....due to some past experiences, they rather not annoy the Fraal again, who the most advance compare to everyone else in this part of the galaxy.

            Why would planetary bombarment be taboo: Fraal stories of past civilizations, other races and etc... basic general knowledge of the Proginators' history acquired by the chiron factions after fighting the proginators on Chiron........and confrmed by the Fraal. -LMP
            I don't think that planners in Sparta Command or much of anywhere else are going to put much faith in the Fraal as an effective detterent to the other aliens. In fact given the Fraals habit of interferring, some factions may consider them a bigger threat. In reality the Spartans have had zero contact with the Fraal. They only have a few reports from undercover sources about what the Terrans know about them.

            Where were the Fraal when Sparta and the Drones fought the Bree for several years in which tens of thousands humans died? Aren't the Spartans and Drones special enough to save.

            As far as planetary bombardment is concerned. It wouldn't be taboo unless all the aliens have exactly the same moral code. And exactly how could the Fraal know about events going on far away. Surely they aren't everywhere. Bottom line, the Spartans would not count on the Fraal for any help, and would most likely not want it.

            Anyway it doesnt matter to me. Real life has taken a turn for the worse at the moment. Someone very important to me is sick and that puts a new life in jeopardy. I have to be with her a lot. I'll still be here though and post. This helps to take my mind off of things for awhile.
            Which side are we on? We're on the side of the demons, Chief. We are evil men in the gardens of paradise, sent by the forces of death to spread devastation and destruction wherever we go. I'm surprised you didn't know that. --Saul Tigh

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            • #21
              awwww, i give my condolances....

              the point i was trying to make before almost dozing off on the keyboard:

              Proginators use to be a large empire that use to span a good portion of the galaxy. They also use to be very advance, way more then they are now... and they end up creating these manifolds at various places. Something happened which sparked a big arse civil war which cause the empire to seperate in different factions. So technically, the proginator civil war is still happening, even after so long... but they atleast learn to not good overboard and blast themselves back to the stone age, destroying stars, worlds, mass genocide, etc.... enough that cause in the lost of their wonder**** tech.... for technology level to go down, their civil war to be pretty big....

              Another example, take a look in the Battletech universe... Look how bad the Succession States were after a couple destructive Succession Wars after the fall of the Star League.

              Sure, humanity won't listen... maybe we do need a big fat arse disastrous war for Humanity to smart up... like the world wars smarted us up a bit :P like World War 3 will finally show the errors of humanity. We are such humans.... such greedy gods too :P

              Tachyon Field? What about Photon Wall Fields? anyway, rather keep the ship base shields low tech.... so current weapons that cannot penetrate the atmosheres (except for large missiles and bombs) can still blast ships with primitive shields...... like Level 1 Shieds in Master of Orion 2.... no better!!!
              Already use Reinforced Hull and Heavy Armor traits to the Terran Battlecruiser. Factions can also have Ablative Armor.

              In Wing Commander 2, Fighters are able to carry firepower like torpedoes and heavy missiles to bring down ship shields.

              I will get the BAC stuff i want to do after i finish homework tonite.... I may stay up all night too :P

              -LMP

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              • #22
                Hey Sprayber,

                Ya gotta do what ya gotta do. All I have to say is that I hope things turn out for the better. Just remember to keep yer hopes up man.
                Take care dude.
                Despot-(1a) : a ruler with absolute power and authority (1b) : a person exercising power tyrannically
                Beyond Alpha Centauri-Witness the glory of Sheng-ji Yang
                *****Citizen of the Hive****
                "...but what sane person would move from Hawaii to Indiana?" -Dis

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Cybergod
                  Kass, as you seem busy, I'll take the liberty of posting the speech Nicholas gives - if you don't mind!

                  By the way, what are the impacts of Titan declaring independence? What will the EC exactly do?
                  1. Do so, I was unwilling to post since I wanted the Magistrate's speech in - sort of a post from the Morgan fake attack all the way to the speech.

                  2. What would you expect? The dreadnaught C.N.S. Galaxy, under the command of Admiral Nrshimha Kamalakara, orbiting Moon, will depart to Saturn region, accompanied by the 21st and 28th Battle Squadrons and six Barge Carriers full of Marines.

                  Initial contact procedures have been sent (see latest post). When do you think you'll be able to post next? That way I have an idea when the contact ship will arrive in your space.
                  Sometimes after my aforementioned post, I presume, so that it will feature in my next post after the coming post, which will be about the Titan case escalating (I think).

                  Btw, if you must then have shields, planetary preferred, ships if you must.
                  But the Earth ships will focus their energy resources on weaponry and speed, and add a few extra layers of ablative armour.
                  Cake and grief counseling will be available at the conclusion of the test. Thank you for helping us help you help us all!

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                  • #24
                    What would you expect? The dreadnaught C.N.S. Galaxy, under the command of Admiral Nrshimha Kamalakara, orbiting Moon, will depart to Saturn region, accompanied by the 21st and 28th Battle Squadrons and six Barge Carriers full of Marines.
                    Holy sh*t!
                    Oh well, lets hope our Belter clans and home made defences will hold against the onslaught. Or that TAF would interfiere on our side...

                    Expect the post within 18 hours... must... sleep...
                    ... This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality...
                    ... Pain is an illusion...

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Cybergod
                      Holy sh*t!
                      Oh well, lets hope our Belter clans and home made defences will hold against the onslaught. Or that TAF would interfiere on our side...
                      Oh, and make that pissed off Marines...

                      Remember, you have to be independently Terran Alliance members to get them to interfere, for now you share the membership with EC!
                      If you get a request pending, they'll slow the Coalition down. And I doubt they'll go for blood immediately after arriving; which will take some time since they won't be doing many superluminal jumps. Planets in the way 'n all.

                      Trust me, you'll be fine in the end.
                      Cake and grief counseling will be available at the conclusion of the test. Thank you for helping us help you help us all!

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                      • #26
                        Oh, and I suggest doing some warning shots with the Orbital Cannon now reinitialised. Nice stir up. I can imagine the Admiral uttering: "What the hell?"
                        Cake and grief counseling will be available at the conclusion of the test. Thank you for helping us help you help us all!

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                        • #27
                          Oh man! Well, now I'm back, and I will get to work on that post. The internet server has been down for the past few days, and in the meantime I've been enjoying Civilization III (it's a great game, folks!).

                          Anyway, Morgan will be attempting to pull out the invasion force on Callisto, which has lost about 15,000 to 20,000 men, and he'll either send some transports, or some transports with reinforcements to help Marmion cut his way out if needs be. Anyway, I'm sure that the Morganites will not stay sedentary while the Terrans launched an attack on Callisto, and they may well even make an escape.

                          Franky, I don't mind bashing Morgan. Heck, when the Hive gets in all this there will be a lot of Sheng-ji bashing!
                          Empire growing,
                          Pleasures flowing,
                          Fortune smiles and so should you.

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                          • #28
                            Phew... finally posted!

                            Kass is it okay? And your site appears to be down whenever I click on it's link in my favourites

                            And the beam did not hit anyone!
                            ... This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality...
                            ... Pain is an illusion...

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                            • #29
                              I'm gone, sorry not being able to do anything on the site....

                              -LMP

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Cybergod
                                Phew... finally posted!

                                Kass is it okay? And your site appears to be down whenever I click on it's link in my favourites

                                And the beam did not hit anyone!
                                Good!
                                More enquiries.
                                Yes, well, I've had, to my great surprise, so much activity in Real-Life (TM) that I simply haven't had enough time to do anything to the page. I'm lucky to get my belated post written.
                                Oh, and the pulse test will show on Coalition scanners. Yikes. Deterrent or what. They will be suspicious of the capabilites of the cannon, however. Too bad for them.

                                I'm gone, sorry not being able to do anything on the site....

                                What about the Battlecruiser? The Terran Alliance? More work to me I suppose, on the Alliance bureacracy at least. Must get school assingment finished...
                                Cake and grief counseling will be available at the conclusion of the test. Thank you for helping us help you help us all!

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