The Chiron Chronicle: Discussions (Restart 3)

[Guardian]

Originally posted by Sprayber
(...)and having a Spartan influence that close to the planetary council base and Pirate home waters appeals to her sense of what goes around comes around, ala Athens outpost.

Well, what can I say...
Sounds like Santiago, all right... (*smirk*)

Originally posted by Sprayber
The UN navy wouldn't want to be accused of stiffling trade would it. That would be very un diplomatic of the UN. Besides, restriction of trade can sometimes go both ways.

Well... (*grumble*)... you do have a point...
We're pretty darned suspicious about your "trade" though...
We'll see what happens...

[[LordLMP]]

Sprayber, great job with the jpg maps and pretty cool

Ain't SNS Spartan going to the PLanetary Council Base with the Colonel in it? would be interesting to have both the pirates and spartans flagships facing each other... maybe the Pks too if Lal decides to show up :P

Doesn't stop the Pirates from harrassing the spartans....Pirates have the reputation to harrass various naval ships belonging to the Morganites, Hive, Spartans, sometimes the believers in nessus sea or near the pirate home bases, sometimes University, other suspicious ships..... Its not encouraged by the Government, but it ain't discouraged either the fleet admirals discretion, sometime the captains

also, would like to get the elections done and over with too. :P
can't hold all of my ideas for what the pirates would be doing too long....which i want to do AFTER the elections...

-LMP

[Sprayber]

Originally posted by [LordLMP]
also, would like to get the elections done and over with too. :P
can't hold all of my ideas for what the pirates would be doing too long....which i want to do AFTER the elections...

-LMP

thats just what the people in Sparta are thinking.

[Guardian]

Well, the U.N.S. Peacekeeper (wow, don't we all have extremely original names for our flagships... ) is ready and waiting in the harbor at U.N. Headquarters... The crew is getting impatient, as they've been sitting there for almost a week waiting for Lal to get himself sorted out and done with all these meetings and stuff....
Right now some of them kind of envy the Pirates ever so slightly...
Never any bureaucratic diddling around with the Pirates - they just go right ahead and get stuff done, and then the critics can ask questions later if they absolutely have to...

Anyway, expect the Peacekeeper to be underway shortly...

-Just as soon as we've held another press conference or two...

[Natan]

I'd like to get the show on the road too, but only after I finish negotiating with Morgan. Mr. President, why don't you respond to my offer?

[Argonaut]

Hey
I'm back (he said, stating the obvious) and have a better connection than ever, so I'm ready to get back in the game.

I also say lets get this election over and done with. The D.A.S. Independence will be arriving shortly.

[Sprayber]

Im getting around to post Santiago's trip to Planatery council..


LMP, Darkcloud- Put some of my admin up tonight.

My concerns. Techs

I have Spartans having techs through level 4. Some level 5. My question is on MMI a level 6 tech. Wasn't for sure on that one. I saw the Drones with it but not anyone else.

Question Could it be possible for a faction to be researching two techs at once? Or do we stick to the game on this one. Maybe if a faction concentrates on one tech they can get it faster. It just seems unrealistic that they can only research one tech at a time.

I have Spartans with Chaos weapons but far from fully arming themselves with it at this time. Lots of missile units around.

Spartan Navy- I envisioned it just a bit smaller than the PK navy. But with far more missile cruisers than choas ones.

Anyway suggestions are welcome. I may add some to the Army. It is still Sparta's bread and butter.

[[LordLMP]]

I do really have to rethink the Pirates units thing.... thats like 400+ units in total in my count........

I say we make Foils half a unit...smaller then a cruiser after all and doubt they need as much maintenance as a full rover regiment. to cheaper in maintenance and cost to build.

Anyway, don't want this game stuck in details like population, resources, etc.... but rather keep it in stats like the Top 5 or 10 in a peticular field like Economy, Industry, Population, Number of Bases, etc...

will post it at the History/Summary.......or even the Admin for that matter. You people can post your opinion of it afterwards and will change when required.

As for techs....Can have the Drones acquiring MMI from the Data Angels i guess, which is most likely. A lot of the advance techs the Drone have was given to them and traded. Same with the Cult and Believers... they could have also stolen it too or acquired in a way like the Cult did with Synthetic Fossil Fuel.

It possible to research two or more techs at the same time, but one can be fully concentrated on and one completed at a time. So while focusing on one tech, they may get into minor research on other fields. Like take the Pirates for example :P They Completed Superstring Theory, but still needed to make a prototype before fully applying in the field (common sence...making the Pirates the first to have acquired Chaos weaponry). While they were researching that tech, they made some theorization/some minor research on neural grafting and MMI after that by studying the Cyborgs...they also got permission to send a research team to check the Cyborgs out in person with their early Neural Grafting/MMI abilities. So by the tie they get to focus their research on Neural Grafting, there is already a percentage of research done already on it.
We would also have to keep mind of a factions characteristics too... lets take the Cyborgs...since their society uses Neural grafting, Pre-Sentient Algorithm and Mind/Machine Interface...when they start to fully research those techs, they research that tech a lot quicker as they already have experience in those fields...after techs are complete, they understand those field lot more and able to make improvements(finally).
For the Drones, researching Industrial related techs will be easy for them to do...as naval related techs with Pirates...Green/Psi/Mindworm related techs with the Cult and Gaians... Economy related techs with the Morganites... etc

Understand? makes it harder to use a formulas like Darkcloud make isn't it? Keep it SMAC like, but with realistic common sence

-LMP

[Sprayber]

Yeah I get it.

[[LordLMP]]

Important techs all factions should have by now:

Former, Probe Team, Foil and Rover techs

basic Industrial, Economy, Environmental, Research, etc... techs

High Chemistry (Plasma Steel, Nerve Gas)
Advanced Military Algorithm
Doctrine: Air Power
Synthetic Fossil Fuel

then, the important techs the factions should have by now(you people can decide, just stating my opinion):

Doctrine: Initiative (Pirate, PK, Data Angel, Cyborg, Morganite, SPartan, Drone, University)

Mind/Machine Interface (Cyborg, Data Angel, Pirate, PK, Spartan, Hive, University, Drone, Morganite)

Superstring Theory (Pirate, Cyborg, University, Data Angel, Spartan, PK, maybe Morganites too)

Orbital Space Flight (Cyborg, maybe University...neither ready to shoot a satellite thought, but cyborgs hoot more so)

Fusion Power (Cyborg and University are close to getting it)

Planetary Economics (All who participated at the Global Trade Summit, but all should have it by now anyway )

Environmental Economics (I would think the Gaians and some of the Chiron Alliance/Data Angel have it...along with the Morganites who are offering to anyone attending their Industrial Summit... they like to bribe a lot do they? )

Silksteel (all but Believers, Cult and maybe Drones, Hive and Spartans)

Level 5, maybe Level 6, Green techs the Gaians and Cult have for sure....especially if the Cult is to be breeding Locusts and Sea Lurkers

did i miss anything else?

[Sprayber]

Biggest Populations

1. Hive
2. Believers
3. Peacekeepers
4. Pirates/Free Drones
5.University
6. Morganites/Data Angels/Cyborgs
7. Gaians
8. Cult

The Cult has a bigger population than Sparta? I know the Spartans aren't that high in population, but they have to be higher than the cult...And Cyborgs reproduce faster than Spartans. I know Spartans can be a little distant at times, but do we reproduce slower than half machines. I would think Sparta has a population somewhere between the University and the Pirates/Free Drones.

[Guardian]

I see the Peacekeepers appear to be doing pretty well in the overall picture.

No complaints, Sire.

[Natan]

Okay, I'm going to have to do some major revisions in my admin post, because I'm supposed to have the largest ground force and I'm not even close. Also, is it okay if Yang arrives by jet from the peninsula? I think he's close enough, and it will be faster and will avoid Pirate interference.

[[LordLMP]]

ooops...no no, spartan has bigger pop then cult, i just forgot to put the spartans Some of those i redone 10 times until it felt right...during that process, i miss the Spartans

-LMP

Originally posted by Sprayber
Biggest Populations

1. Hive
2. Believers
3. Peacekeepers
4. Pirates/Free Drones
5.University
6. Morganites/Data Angels/Cyborgs
7. Gaians
8. Cult

The Cult has a bigger population than Sparta? I know the Spartans aren't that high in population, but they have to be higher than the cult...And Cyborgs reproduce faster than Spartans. I know Spartans can be a little distant at times, but do we reproduce slower than half machines. I would think Sparta has a population somewhere between the University and the Pirates/Free Drones.

[[LordLMP]]

Hive has the Largest ground force, but not the strongest...s they have a large army of cheap conscript units you can say. Way i see it anyway. Everytime i play against the Hive in the game, they usually concentrate in building a huge army of cheap ground infantry and rush everybody... hate being neighbours with them in the game
They also expand lot quicker to... so they have a lot of bases, population stretch out (capital and monsoon jungle bases pretty pact with pop thought i would think)... which makes their infrastructure suffer.

Yes, can use a jet same with the Believers, if they even use them.

-LMP