Chiron Chronicles Discussion

[DarkCloud]

quote: The Morganite and University ships are nowhere to be seen...

-That's because there aren't any

Why would Planetmind like the Drones. They destroy the earth?

[Guardian]

I think the Planetmind "likes" the Drones because Drones don't like Hive/Spartans. Hence, they could be allies, but only if they stop hurting the environment...

Also, the Peacekeepers are sort of playing with the idea of a friendship, or even a possible alliance with the Drones, but they won't do anything that might upset Planetmind.

[Guardian]

On a different subject, I really don't think the Spartan Followers of War could have come out of their attack with so little damage, no matter how good they are...

First of all, they were infantry units moving through open terrain under constant artillery bombardment for over 10 hours. Nobody can do that and not take some pretty nasty damage, Cult or no Cult.

They were detected and came under fire when they were still 213 kilometers out. Even if they kept moving at 20 km/h - which in itself is truely AWESOME and highly unrealistic for an infantry unit on foot, even if not under fire - it would still take them over 10 hours to reach the bunkers, and the artillery would keep pounding them the whole time. And where in the world would they take cover? In the craters from previous explosions?? Well, that would require them to stop or even move backwards, and so they would be bogged down moving from crater to crater, which would slow their progress to crawling speed...

I'd say they would take a minimum of 20-30% damage from the artillery bombardment alone, and there would be no walk-overs against the bunker defenders either.

Anyway, say 30-60% damage on the remaining Cult units and I'll be willing to accept it.

By the way, I'll be away for the weekend, so the U.N. won't be taking on any more peacekeeping missions until monday some time...

[This message has been edited by Guardian (edited March 30, 2001).]

[Cyber]

Guardian, how many units can keep up a bombardment for 10 hours. And how many artillery units were there, near UN Haven City again? Think about how much missiles would the artilleries need. And besides, the patrolling needlejets had to probably leave soon after for refueling, so with whos help are the artilleries going to aim. All the sensor arrays have been converted or destroyed by the Spartans

You have to understand that these Followers of War are almost supernatural, with the tendency putting themselves into a trance-like state, in which they do not feel emotions, fatigue or pain but their senses have been heightened. These people have been in intensive training years after years and who knows, maybe they are truly blessed by the God of War
Okay, I know you don´t value SMAC as a simulator, but in it I destroyed two commando plasma garrisons and a Great boil, with only my first attacking regiment getting moderate damage.
My final offer is 20-40%, take it or leave it

And people, my timetable is starting to get more and more crowded nowadays, so i don´t think I´m going to have enough time for playing the Spartans anymore.
I was thinking of creating a new story thread, which would be in the same style as the Spartan Chronicles. Then I could continue writing, and time wouldn´t be an important factor.

Anyways, is there anyone willing to adopt the Spartans?Probably not after finding out how much they are liked by other factions But whoever takes them, please ensure that the war ends with honor on their part I´ve got emotionally attached to them somehow...





[This message has been edited by Cyber (edited March 30, 2001).]

[Guardian]

Yes, that artillery regiment would need an awful lot of ammo, but they would have an awful lot of ammo!!

They're not moving around, they're just sitting there at the defense line, waiting to blast the bejeezus out of anything approaching the lines!

-And how could the Spartans possibly have destroyed or converted sensor arrays that are actually IN the Defense Line??

It seems clear to me that the two of us will not reach an agreement here, so I propose to let the moderators decide the outcome...

[Cyber]

I think I know the answer, if we let the moderators decide the outcome: CYBER!!!( shouts LorLMP ) Naah, just joking. LordLMP has truly done a great job as a moderator.

Anyways, the tyranical reign of Cyber over the Spartans has ended now, so I´m no longer responsible for the Spartan faction...

[This message has been edited by Cyber (edited March 30, 2001).]

[[LordLMP]]

That pretty much puts a gap on the eastern front with no one playing Spartans :P how would you have time for a Spartan Chronicles like thing and not CHiron Chronicles? don't always have to write something everyday. mainly point out what the spartans are doing and the rest can work with that.

-LordLMP

[Cyber]

I don´t know where will I actually have the time for writing anything! I´m not completely sure about starting the new story, but atleast I thought I could post new stuff for it not so often( maybe 4-5 days or even a week) Dunno, I´ll just have to wait and see...
Anyways, sorry for causing additional problems .Maybe somewhere in the far future I´ll be able to join the Chiron Chronicles again, if you accept me, that is

Cyber

[Christantine The Great]

DarkCloud, when did I say I liked the Drones? I don't remember ever saying that I was going to help the Drones or try to stop the mindworms attacking the drones.

[Natan]

Okay, lordlmp, I've figured out what secret project the Hive would have. The ascetic virtues. The Hive is built around the principle of ascetic virtues, and a police bonus fits nicely with the Hive's nature. The only problem is that I don't have the tech. What should I do?

Also, a question about the rules: How many people can a base without a hab complex support? With a hab complex?

I'm thinking of writing some quick short stories about individual citizens of the Hive, starting with a border patrolman. What thread would they go in?

I'll be making another post in the admit right after this, so if any of you want to read more about the Hive, look there.

[Clear Skies]

OK, the required technology is Planetary Economics. As far as I know (which isn't very far at all, but anyway) no-one yet has this tech - unless someone's made yet another incredible advance in the last few minutes , so you can't trade for it.
What are you researching at the moment? If you don't have even the prerequisites I don't think the project will be allowed.
The only real way I can see that wouldn't be unrealistic would be to simply research the required technology and build the project yourself. Costly and time-consuming, I know.
You could always go for a project which you do have the tech for - the Human Genome Project sounds like a good bet to me.
On a similar subject, won't be long before the race for the Hunter-Seeker Algorithm begins. Do my Cyborgs get an advantage, due to their experience with sentient algorithms?

[[LordLMP]]

double post, darn those probe teams!
[This message has been edited by [LordLMP] (edited April 01, 2001).]

[[LordLMP]]

The Morganites has Planetary Economics but i don't think its the preq for ascetic values, will check anyway. I know Planetary Energy Grid is under that tech, which the morganites would persue as soon as their economy stabiliZes. Anyway, can also make it a goal for the hive to pursue, to acquire.

How big can a base be without hab complex for the Hive in SMAC/X? Also, Hive bases are mostly underground, not the most spacial or luxurious of places to live. And do remember that the overall population is spread out. Hive capital can be the largest base too. And you can post your little stories in the game thread. its okay to have description of various people in your factions society, their point of view of whats going on.

SMAC, i have shrunk the map down to 500k. will try sending you that.

is everyone okay with the combat and so on rules? anything tha needs to improve, clarify more, to have and so on? This is a collective agreement too you know, not a dictorship

-LordLMP

[Guardian]

Ummm... just 2 small questions... is Cyber really gone? And was it really due to lack of time ?? Just wondering a little, since... well, basically since he left very abruptly and in the middle of an argument...

Didn't mean to make him leave, you know...
But... if he didn't have time to keep playing, then I guess that's fair enough.

[Clear Skies]

I've got the SMAX tech tree in front of me, and it IS Planetary Economics. Adaptive Economics is the prerequisite for the PEG. I don't think anyone should have PE yet - it is a pretty big level 4.

I don't really need anything else I don't think - I will try to get round to posting stats and everything, but what with GCSE coursework and everything life is a tad hectic...
Plus, I will be away as of Monday for an entire week - off to Boston to do some skiing at Sunday River. Don't think I'll be able to get to the Net there, but I will try...
Don't let anyone take over the Cyborgs cos they are mine mine MINE! ahem sorry
anyways must b off as have plenty to do!