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  • #16
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    Originally posted by Natan on 03-13-2001 05:37 PM
    Okay, I'd be interested in the Hive or the Believers, depending on their situations. Please fill me in on them. A few questions:

    If I join, will I have to keep track of all of my units and bases for each "turn" on a map, or just have a general idea of what's going on in my empire?



    The Hive has many bases and large military force of cheap units. They suffered a big war decades ago against the Chiron Alliance, which wiped out practicly the whole HIve navy and most of the naval related facilities along their west coast. They kept quiet after that, except for the constant attacks agains the Free Drone Blockade, with help from Spartans and secret Help from Pirates (Pirate units disguise as free drone units). They recently offered blood truce to the Free Drones due to the Planetary Council and they have other plans. They are currently into peace negociations with teh Free Drones, but both sides know will be a very small chance that it would ever happen. Its both sides taking a break mainly. Hive accepted a proposal from General Braddock of the Peacekeepers Continental Forces, and he is a Pro-War PK too. Hive will get Doctrine Air Power after they keep their part of the deal... the end result doesn't matter. I have create General Kane , incharge of the Southern Hive Forces, and have occasional friendly contacts with General Braddock, sort of friends since the Hive war, when they each lead a army against each other. The rest is up to you and rather that the Hive keeps its promise to Braddock.
    The Believer have the most bases and have a large army of cheap units aswell, but lower tech than the average Faction on Chiron. Believers have a truce with the Cult, whom they don't like much. They don't have much contact with the rest of the factions, so lack of trade aswell. Friction may happen again between the Cult and Believers at the Unity Wreckage and so on.


    Keep track in general. There is to many units and bases to all keep tract and bit tedious and no fun. But do put various important details about the faction in the admin thoughts and so on, details which other players may need when their faction has anything to do with the believers and so on

    -LordLMP

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    • #17
      Okay, then I'll join. But I don't have SMACX, although I have played it once or twice. I understand the new factions and landmarks, but I'll need help on the maps and some of the techs. If I could get a good map somewhere, that would be great. I do, however, have the latest version of SMAC. I will take the Hive. Also, one final question: I need to know what the council considers an atrocity in this, for use in the story.

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      • #18
        AT the moment, any atrocities that are atrocities in the game is atrocities in this game aswell


        Anything against the human rights of today, genocide, slavery, experimentationon humans, nerve gas, nerve staple, planetbuster, nukes/mass weapons in general, bio and chemical warfare of any kind, obliration of bases, denying free flow of information, denying freedom and so on

        Police State doesn't look well, but nto completly ruled out. Can be Dictator and still follow the UN Charter to the letter.


        -LordLMP

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        • #19
          are you sure denying free flow of information is an atrocity

          There are 3 police states in CC at the mom:
          Hive: Verging on slavery. Limited human rights. The people live in poverty and are abused to further the goals of Chairman Yang.
          Planet Cult: Green Communisim. Unlike the (Industrial) communist states of Earth the Cult isn't crippled by corruption. This is because the Police State is required to enforce the strict enviromental initatives & safeguards, rather than to further the personal goals of selfish leaders. One thing other factions are bound to get excited about is that in The Cult the mindworms have greater rights than Humans. The Cult is an ethical police state, a good example is Children Creches are widespread. If other factions whined enough Cha dawn would switch to pseudo democracy, but as it is the police state works just fine.
          Spartan: Who cares if the spartan PS consitutes an atrocity or not, they obliterate bases with nuclear weapons.

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          • #20
            That was a good one, about the spartans

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            • #21

              Believe it or not, the Peacekeepers are starting to get kind of screwed up as well!

              They're starting to really HATE the Spartans!!!

              Their military has already introduced the slogan that "A good Spartan is a dead Spartan!", and the new recruits will also be learning that "There's no such thing as a civillian Spartan!".

              I don't like the sound of this, but I can easily see how it could happen. (It's no coincidence that I'm playing them, I'm a Peacekeeper at heart! )

              Things could get ugly at some point, and if that happens, the Peacekeepers are gonna have a real problem with themselves...

              "Politics is to say you are going to do one thing while you're actually planning to do someting else - and then you do neither."
              -- Saddam Hussein

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              • #22
                Guardian, have you thought that it might have been the point of the Spartans, to make the PK´s really hate them. Psychological warfare

                "Why to use expensive conventional warfare. Just shatter your enemies ideologies, dreams and plans for the future and they´ll be crawling before your feet."

                - Spartan Battlemanual,
                section on Psychological warfare.

                A tough, but possible job

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                • #23

                  Actually, yes, the thought has occured to me that this is probably exactly what the Spartans want... the Peacekeepers know that too, but that only makes them even more pissed off!

                  They're not exactly crawling though, but some of them are becoming more and more like the Spartans. They become what they hate and they'll hate themselves for it... but they'll hate the Spartans even more!

                  "Politics is to say you are going to do one thing while you're actually planning to do someting else - and then you do neither."
                  -- Saddam Hussein

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                  • #24
                    "When you gaze too long into the abyss, the abyss gazes back at you..."

                    -Baldurs gate 1

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