Turns (Classic Game Smac I)

[Net Warrior]

I wanted to download it (the map) and have a look but the link I had didn't work. I tried CGN too but that didn't work either. Can you provide a working link?

Net Warrior

[Rubin]

Flubber: Sorry to break in, but the SMACX patch v2.0 does NOT upgrade SMAC to v5.0. You need to install the Win2000/XP compatibility patch too. Otherwise, your maintenance costs will be wrongly calculated (you'll only pay 1/3 of the actual upkeep costs). I believe you can patch it on top of the v2.0.

[Minute Mirage]

Originally posted by Flubber
Rule point

Since the Ultimate Builders Map is a " known map", we must all feel free to take a look at all the terrain features of this map ( by downloading or opening up a blank copy). THis makes things equally fair to people that have played the map before and those that have not.

I am playing this map at the moment in another PBEM so I couldn't avoid looking at it even if I wanted.

Aren't we playing the standard map of planet in this first game? DilithiumDad's map was supposed to be used in the second game.

[Flubber]

I thought we were on the ultimate builders map but either way is fine

[Flubber]

Who has the turn ?? It appears that the last posted pass was to kratylos about 30 hours ago.

[Minute Mirage]

Originally posted by Flubber
Who has the turn ?? It appears that the last posted pass was to kratylos about 30 hours ago.

Like I posted earlier, I've sent the turn to Kratylos.

Flubber, have you installed the "Alpha Centauri Win 2000/XP Compatibility Update"? This is the 5.0 patch and it's available here. Everyone should have it installed.

[Kratylos]

Originally posted by Flubber
Who has the turn ?? It appears that the last posted pass was to kratylos about 30 hours ago.

wait for game turn.

[Minute Mirage]

Originally posted by Kratylos



wait for game turn.

Resent to krawczykm AT plusnet DOT pl. I first sent the save to kratylos AT civ DOT org DOT pl, the address from which I received your first email. Sorry for the mix-up.

[Kratylos]

sent turn to PK.

[Net Warrior]

Turn received but I'm leaving for work in 5 minutes....

[Flubber]

I downloaded the compatibility patch-- Does that mean that everyone in all my games need it now?? What impacts will it have if someone does not?

[Minute Mirage]

Originally posted by Flubber
I downloaded the compatibility patch-- Does that mean that everyone in all my games need it now?? What impacts will it have if someone does not?

The answer to both: I don't know.

I did try to search for the answer and I found some threads concerning the matter:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=84608

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?postid=2202039#post2202039

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=97415&highlight=patch

This is what qwillybj said about the matter:

Originally posted by gwillybj
Also re the XP patch: All players in a MP game must use it, or none must use it; if one player in a 2-player PBEM has the patch and the other doesn't, the saves from either player will not be read correctly by the other's version (v4 by v5 and v5 by v4).

However, if I understood things correctly, you played your first turn without the 5.0 patch and yet I was able to open it? In any case, I really wouldn't want to play without the 5.0 patch since the bugs it fixes are very important. If this means we have to restart the game, I'd say we should do it.

[Net Warrior]

2102 to Flubber

[Flubber]

I received the turn and will play in a couple of hours--hmmm I assume that some of my opponents (playing smax ) would have had XP

Is this an issue only with Smac ??

[Minute Mirage]

Originally posted by Flubber
I received the turn and will play in a couple of hours--hmmm I assume that some of my opponents (playing smax ) would have had XP

Is this an issue only with Smac ??

Yes this is only an issue with SMAC. The SMAX 2.0 patch is "fully patched", but the SMAC 4.0 misses some essential bug fixes, like the GA pop boom fix and maintenance bug. Therefore, the 5.0 patch (XP patch) is needed in order to be able to GA pop boom in SMAC.