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    What is the minimum/maximum bonus you can have in the social categories that is still useful? For example: is +6 econ at all better than +5 econ etc.

    All the stats have listed ranges, for some I assume effect past that range (Efficiency is used in some formula so any value would help at least a little, I guess)

  • #2
    All of the values listed in the SOCIAL section of alpha.txt are hardcoded. As for EFFIC, I do not know if there is a limit to the effect it can have in formulas, but I have yet to find one that I can remember (IIRC, I went up to +10 and still found no limit).

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    • #3
      EFFIC is limited to some 2-digit number AFAIK, just don't know how big.
      Everything else is hardcoded and can the values can be found in the manuals.
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      • #4
        Limits that I know of:
        Growth has no further effect outside [-3, 6].
        Effic has no further effect below -4.
        Industry is normally bounded to [-3, 5] but a value of -7 or less rolls over to 5.
        Research has no further effect outside [-5, 5]
        Econ has no further effect above 5, but seems to work fine for arbitrarily low values. The effect of X Econ, where X <= -2, is that each base loses (-1-X) energy from its base tile, *after* accounting for rec tanks, but not to go below zero.
        Probe above 3 rolls over and is apparently treated as 0. Probe below -2 has no further effect.
        Police has no further effect outside [-5, 3].
        Support has no further effect outside [-4, 3].
        Planet seems to be fully effective at any value.
        Morale has no further effect above 4. I think it's bounded below at -4, but it might interact interestingly with a children's creche.
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        • #5
          Thank you, this is the information I need

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          • #6
            Planet seems to be fully effective at any value.
            Do the capture percentage change between 3 and 4?
            IIRC no.
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            -- Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.

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            • #7
              nope. but the % bonus stays,at least up to 70. which is what i think he was refering to
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