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  • Glitch?? - I CAN'T WIN!!

    I don't know if it's just something I'm not doing, but I think Alpha Centauri glitched at some point when I was starting this game. I CANNOT seem to win!

    Conquer or Diplomatic - I eradicated 3 factions and beat the other 3 into swearing Pacts to serve me. Doesn't this win me the game?

    Transcendence - I have built the Voice of Planet (and have built or captured all but like 4 other Secret Projects). The game says that now all factions can compete in finishing "Ascent to Transcendence," but I have no idea what it's referring to. (I've never played this far before...I usually kill all my enemies of win diplomatically.) There is no Ascent to Transcendence facility available in any of my hundred bases or a Secret Project.

    Economic - I have 35,000 credits saved up and am adding roughly 2300 credits per turn. Shouldn't have an opportunity to corner the market? (Haven't gone this route in the past either.)

    I have somewhere around 100 bases. A few of my bases are approaching 30 population units. Half of my bases or more are experiencing Golden Ages. I have built nearly every single facility available in the majority of my bases.

    I'm getting bored. How do I win this game and get out of it? It took so long to get here I want to win by Transcendence or Supreme Leader (should this be a Council option? it's not listed under council, but I've been the Planetary Governor for a few hundred years).

    Do I need a patch? I'm playing directly off my original CD on Windows XP. Is there a way to change the rules of the game once you're in it? I thought I had it set to allow all the different types of victories, but perhaps it reset to the default which has some of them turned off.

    Help!!!

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    Conquer or Diplomatic - I eradicated 3 factions and beat the other 3 into swearing Pacts to serve me. Doesn't this win me the game?
    Do you have them enabled ? also i can't remember if it's 3 or 4 factions that can be pacted in order to win via conquest, try eliminating one of your submissives.
    Diplomatic aslong as you have 2/3 the votes and pass it via the council and nobody has opposed you (check that there isn't a faction now vendetta'd to everybody) you should be able to win if it's turned on.

    Transcendence - I have built the Voice of Planet (and have built or captured all but like 4 other Secret Projects). The game says that now all factions can compete in finishing "Ascent to Transcendence," but I have no idea what it's referring to. (I've never played this far before...I usually kill all my enemies of win diplomatically.) There is no Ascent to Transcendence facility available in any of my hundred bases or a Secret Project.
    Once somebody has built the Voice of Planet then ALL factions have the chance to build The Ascent to Transcendance which is another secret project that is only accessible once VoP has been completed. Quickly build this new secret project because the first faction to do so wins. If it's not there then likely you've turned off winning by this method.

    Economic - I have 35,000 credits saved up and am adding roughly 2300 credits per turn. Shouldn't have an opportunity to corner the market? (Haven't gone this route in the past either.)
    Open up the menu option on the left hand side and click through them because i can't remember which part it's in. You'll see a new option saying "Corner Global Energy Market". It will tell you if you have enough cash or not and ask if you want to proceed. You now have to defend your capital for 20years to win.

    I'm getting bored. How do I win this game and get out of it? It took so long to get here I want to win by Transcendence or Supreme Leader (should this be a Council option? it's not listed under council, but I've been the Planetary Governor for a few hundred years).
    Since you're into the transcendance techs and do not have the option to become supreme leader (an option available in the planetary council which does not require that you are the govt, only that you can get enough ppl to vote for you) it makes me think you don't have this victory condition enabled.

    Finally save the game, do ctrl+K to load up the scenario editor then you can check what victory conditions you have enabled. You can then load the old game and finish it so you don't lose your score
    Learn to overcome the crass demands of flesh and bone, for they warp the matrix through which we perceive the world. Extend your awareness outward, beyond the self of body, to embrace the self of group and the self of humanity. The goals of the group and the greater race are transcendant, and to embrace them is to acheive enlightenment.

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    • #3
      Thanks Lazerus, appreciate the reply.

      Okay, so I got into the scenario editor, but now it says that turning it on counts as cheating. Is there a way to alter the rules outside the game to correct the glitch?

      I was correct. The glitch turned off EVERYTHING. Every check box in the custom rules is dark. All victory options are disabled. haha...this game would have gone on until I personally transcended!

      Is there a file I can edit outside the game to fix this and win? With the cheat activated, it let me win and I'm up to 212%, so I'd like to get that score for real.

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      • #4
        when conquest is enabled you can win by enslaving or conquering all factions (you don't have to kill anyone if the surrender) if coopretive is enabled you can pact 2, then have the other 4 die or surrender, but I believe that even if conquest is disabled you can still win a conquest victory if you kill off everyone (no surrenders)
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        • #5
          You're only hope is to try what qwerty has suggested because there's no way you can use the scenario editor to alter something and then have your score saved unfortunately
          Learn to overcome the crass demands of flesh and bone, for they warp the matrix through which we perceive the world. Extend your awareness outward, beyond the self of body, to embrace the self of group and the self of humanity. The goals of the group and the greater race are transcendant, and to embrace them is to acheive enlightenment.

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          • #6
            Can you post the save?
            Mart
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            WPC SMAC(X) Democracy Game - Morganities aspire to dominate Planet

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            • #7
              I sure can.

              Thanks for the responses everyone. Guess I'll just have to whoop all their butts again from scratch...
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              • #8
                I thought about enabling some victory condition in hex editor, but I would have to find the position first. not that easy.

                How about conquering everyone? And since you are Pacted, how about considering yourself the winner?
                In the first case, if you refuse Pact and conquer everyone, maybe game enables this victory condition?
                Mart
                Map creation contest
                WPC SMAC(X) Democracy Game - Morganities aspire to dominate Planet

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                • #9
                  You could resign the game. That would give you a score (but without any victory bonus) and it would be added to your HOF (if the score is high enough). I did this from your posted save file and the score was 174%.
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