univeristy SE choices(rambling)

[Mart]

You need 3 techs as uni to get IA:
- InfNet and PlaNet you may have from the start
- 1- Ind Base
- 2- Ind Economics
- 3- Ind Automation
So you would need to have 3turns/tech. Also quite low cost of technologies. Maybe pop a lot of pods, they give 1 lab each.
And small maps are more inclined to give you low cost of techs, it is a formula after all.
Maybe preferential settings, not much fungus, possibility to get more colony pods - rainy tiles

[Senethro]

I know for a fact hes also got Centauri Ecology as well by "offering all tech" on the dipplo screen.

[Mart]

you can get any of level 1 techs from unity pods. This way you can get Ind Base. Still, you need a lot of skills.
Oh, and AAs, but often they give you crap techs at the moment, actually increasing the technology cost.

[Kataphraktoi]

i do have centeco,as well as several other techs i will have 6 or 5 techs up on you by 2118 if you dont get another between now and then by my calculations. most likely i wil be facing a paranoid 3v1 alliance here soon,but ho hum

i wouldnt use AAs....stash those away for early SP's is alot better.







pods give +1 lab each?

[Mart]

you havent noticed? never seen miraculously adding lab points in early game when popping pods? sometimes, or even quite often in first tech, it can give you a tech a turn earlier.

[GeoModder]

New for me too. Never noticed this feature.

[Mart]

not difficult to test, just start a game and pop some unity "trash"...

[Kataphraktoi]

then nope,that isnt it.i didnt pop that many techs

edit: if tech costs are 20 for example,then i would need 20 pod pops for even a single tech even a 1 lab boost to my current tech wouldnt be that big,unless it was very low tech costs

[Mart]

several pods can however add those few lab points to get a tech a turn earlier. For Centauri Ecology, that gives you formers one turn earlier, possible no loss or less lost minerals, if you plan to switch, etc.

[Flubber]

Originally posted by Cataphract887
i do have centeco,as well as several other techs i will have 6 or 5 techs up on you by 2118 if you dont get another between now and then by my calculations.

i wouldnt use AAs....stash those away for early SP's is alot better.

Myn question arose from statements like that one to be "5 techs up on someone by 2118 " Assuming they have say 5 techs, that means you have 10 by 2118. Uni gets 2 to start so that means 8 techs researched in 18 years or 1 every 2.25 years IF they were all researched. Some of your comments hint at trades in which case this is not at all unusual

Its just that usually when we talk of getting to IA, its in situations where there are no trades and people fear cashing AAs in case they get a crappy tech that slows the beeline

[Kataphraktoi]

Myn question arose from statements like that one to be "5 techs up on someone by 2118 " Assuming they have say 5 techs, that means you have 10 by 2118. Uni gets 2 to start so that means 8 techs researched in 18 years or 1 every 2.25 years IF they were all researched. Some of your comments hint at trades in which case this is not at all unusual

Its just that usually when we talk of getting to IA, its in situations where there are no trades and people fear cashing AAs in case they get a crappy tech that slows the beeline

i researched *all* the IA preq techs(and IA) with my own lab points....after 2118 or so passes i can fill you in on more details.

[Mart]

Well, I just fired up a game on large map with Univ and tried to get IA asap. I rarely play without tech stagnation and haven't played Univ for years now, though my recent experiment is for Univ.
They are just designed this way. Having only 2 bases on rivers though I got
InfNet - from start
PlaNet - from start
CentEco
IndBase
IndEconomics
Industrial Automation

Sliders were though 30 economy/70%labs
With IndEco went Free Market right away.
Additionally popped like 7 pods.
Cost varried between 15 to 37 labs. And this is it. Seventh tech is already 63 labs.
And if you get third base on river with FreeMarket, you just do it usually in 9 to 11 turns. No room for additional tech though, unless you can hit that 63 labs barier somehow.

You were though lucky some AI got Ethical Calculus so fast.

[Lazerus]

Well he's pacted with the Gaians, but they didnt even have planetary networks so they couldn't have been much help. Spartans are being nice to me but they've branched off towards polymorphic software and other useless stuff. That leaves miriam ...

[Mart]

Miriam has Social Psych for start. That's making her in the best position to get Ethical calculus, but she is -2 research, 10 turns without study...

[Kataphraktoi]

i got IA in 2108 i think. pssh miriam is getting anything first

btw mart,this is a 3 CP setup

id be more impressed\nervous of how hive has IA in 2113