Super Science City...should you allways try to build one?

[BlackCat]

Originally posted by Dissident
yep.

Ideally, I'd like to build: Merchant Exchange, Supercollider, Theory of Everything, Network Backbone, and Space Ellevator. I'm not sure about the last one. It says it increase economy 50%- I'm not sure if they improves research at all. And of course, biology lab, network node, energy bank, nanohospital, research hospital, (is that it?).

Nope, you have forgotten Fusion and Quantum labs.

Further, since you probably want to pump a lot of energy into this base, Tree farm and Hybrid forest should also be build there. They don't add directly to reseach, but together with EB and Space elev it gives + 200 % on ECONOMY, wich again may be reallocated through SE.

If running FM, the Longevity vaccine adds another 50 % to energy.

That should be it (I think )

[Barinthus]

Ah so research improvements along with energy improvements and their SPs? To pump out as much energy to be reharvested into the research slider?

[BlackCat]

Yes, and I actually forgot something.

The three kind of sattelites should be build so they matches top pop. Especially when Cloning vats are build.

[Frankychan]

I try to do a SCC every now and then, but like Flubber said, putting all your eggs into one basket is sort of dangerous. Just the thought of having all my best scientists and talents planetbustered disturbs me.

Instead I try and have 2 or 3 science bases. They might not have the same amount of research points as just one, but in the event that one base gets bustered, at least I have a few other ones to protect my research points.

Although, having 1 base pumping out mad research points is pretty impressive. I'd give that base governor a cookie if I could.

[BlackCat]

Just keep your basket out of reach, then PB's isn't a problem.

At the time other factions gets the abillity to build PB's I usually are / has been at war with them, so enemy bases that might have been in firing range are now mine.

Secondly, I also throw missiles against any base that are building PB's or have them in stock. (Arrgh, antimissile-use posters sighted - must find my tinfoil hat )

[Dis]

I try not to piss of factions with planetbusters until I get orbital defense pods (or at least flechette defense systems).

[BlackCat]

That is why I hit them before they get them. I think I have been hit once by PB's, and since I figured out what had happened, PB builders / owners has been my main target .

[BlackCat]

Originally posted by BlackCat
That is why I hit them before they get them. I think I have been hit once by PB's, and since I figured out what had happened, PB builders / owners has been my main target .

Edit : Actually, I have never seen a ODP in function - is it worth while to try it ?

[Frankychan]

I dunno, usually I'm either building busters or not. This past game, I swear I eliminated all the faction bases close enough to me that could be used as a forward base. I actually measured the tiles and unless the humies established a base that I didn't see, I have no idea how they were launching all those PB's at me.

I figured if I'm the Aliens and everyone hates me, I might as well nuke and obliterate every human base. Yeah, I usually commit at least 1 atrocity per game...

Hey, when sunspots in play launch those PB's away.

[Mead]

Originally posted by BlackCat
Just keep your basket out of reach, then PB's isn't a problem.

At the time other factions gets the abillity to build PB's I usually are / has been at war with them, so enemy bases that might have been in firing range are now mine.

Secondly, I also throw missiles against any base that are building PB's or have them in stock. (Arrgh, antimissile-use posters sighted - must find my tinfoil hat )

Another way to keep to keep your SSC safe from AI factions is to completely surround your base with other units (crawlers work well). I have yet to be PB'd when the AI could not get a PB through the other units. A human player would just shoot through those other units first to open up a hole in the defenses.


As an aside, I have used ODPs in the past, and got into a couple sattelite wars in the past, but have never seen one of my fletcher defense systems used. I built them but the AI never shot against them.


Mead

[Commy]

Another way to avoid PBs is to clear all units out of the base...if you have enough infastructure around the base, like other bases, you'll never have to worry about units attacking the city...just watch out for mindworms...

[Flubber]

Originally posted by Commy
Another way to avoid PBs is to clear all units out of the base...if you have enough infastructure around the base, like other bases, you'll never have to worry about units attacking the city...just watch out for mindworms...

The empty the base trick-- I have used this as well. The mindworms CAN be maddenning. Foir anyone that didn't understand Commy's reference, one of the most frustrating thing that van happen to you is to clear and area of units so a buster has nothing to hit only to have a mindworm appear and come close to your base. The opponent nukes the worm and you say bye bye base.

Note that generally the emptying the base trick is generally only recommended for "safer" bases. Not much point is having your best base captured after all

[Flubber]

OH and if I am playing SMAX, I am more likely to have a lot of trawlers which makes it more difficult for an AI to PB me anyway. They form a barrier defense. If I see a PB nearby I might also put up a wall of interceptors (plus empty my key base)

These are all last ditch type efforts anyway as my more typical method is to simply kill any enemy base that dares be within range of my best city

[livid imp]

Originally posted by Dissident
yep.

Ideally, I'd like to build: Merchant Exchange, Supercollider, Theory of Everything, Network Backbone, and Space Ellevator. I'm not sure about the last one. It says it increase economy 50%- I'm not sure if they improves research at all. And of course, biology lab, network node, energy bank, nanohospital, research hospital, (is that it?).

If you build you SSC on the coast, don't forget the Thermocline Transducer. If you are trawling energy off the tidal turbines, it acts like a ME (no maintaince +1energy and a lot cheaper to build)

[BlackCat]

Originally posted by livid imp


If you build you SSC on the coast, don't forget the Thermocline Transducer. If you are trawling energy off the tidal turbines, it acts like a ME (no maintaince +1energy and a lot cheaper to build)

I don't like coastal placement of core bases so I prefer to terraform up to above 3000 m. That gives +5 energy with ME.