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  • #1

    Fun Factor

    This game is old.

    Real old.

    But I don't have to tell anyone here that.

    Over the years I have heard people go on and on about how fun it is.

    Well, I may be nearly a decade late, but I decided to buy a copy of this game from e-bay.

    It cost me $8 after shipping and insurance.

    So I just want to know if everyone here still thinks the game is fun?

    What sort of rating would you give it versus the software titles that are coming out now?

    I am not as concerned about graphics as I am about gameplay.

    I can overlook outdated graphics easily as long as I can have fun.

    So what do you think, can someone brand new to the game find as much fun with it as if it just got released?

    BTW I do play civs 3 now also (I just picked it up about 2 months ago). I guess when it comes to great games I just kinda fell off the turnip truck!
    ..there are known ‘knowns’ There are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know we don't know. ~~Donald Rumsfeld
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  • #2
    Re: Fun Factor

    Originally posted by uberloz
    This game is old.
    Chess is older, but its still real fun...


    Originally posted by uberloz
    Well, I may be nearly a decade late, but I decided to buy a copy of this game from e-bay.

    It cost me $8 after shipping and insurance.
    SMAC only I assume. Regardless, you'll get your money's worth out of it!

    Originally posted by uberloz
    So I just want to know if everyone here still thinks the game is fun?
    Its the only computer game I play.

    Originally posted by uberloz
    I am not as concerned about graphics as I am about gameplay. I can overlook outdated graphics easily as long as I can have fun.
    Thats good. However, here again, chess doesn't have good graphics either - its all about gameplay, as is SMAC(X)....
    Regardless, the Secret Project movies are quite entertaining IMO - I still watch a majority of them even after all these years.

    Originally posted by uberloz
    BTW I do play civs 3 now also (I just picked it up about 2 months ago). I guess when it comes to great games I just kinda fell off the turnip truck!
    A lot of the SMAC(X) Community are here because they didn't enjoy Civ 3. I never bothered to buy Civ 3 as from my understanding it would not have been as entertaining as SMAC(X).
    Another good SMAC(X) site to check out is CGN - still a lot of PBEM's forming there.....
    Anyways, enjoy!

    D

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    • #3
      I have Civ3 but couldn't get into it after several attempts. I still play SMac regularly because it is fun.
      You don't get to 300 losses without being a pretty exceptional goaltender.-- Ben Kenobi speaking of Roberto Luongo

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      • #4
        I do like Civ3 (though I'm fairly bored of it now), but I also love this game.

        I really loved the game when it came out. But I admit all the hate spewing on the alpha.owo forums influenced me and caused me to get bored with it after about 5 months. But last year I really started playing consistantly again. It's obvious no one else is going to create a TBS with this level of complexity. And it still hasn't been surpassed in quality. Until that happens, I'll be playing occasionally (maybe a couple games a month)

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        • #5
          Still fun, every time I play it. PBEM (which I only got into a few months ago) is unreasonably fun.

          Those first few games, when every new tech was a new discovery for me, learning the unit workshop, scrambling to put down a huge Mindworm pop for the first time... man those were heady times.

          Enjoy the game!

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          • #6
            It's more fun than most of the games out now. I will play the new Pirate's game at some point, I am still addicted to the original. SMAC is one of those games you can stick back on your shelf, and then feel the need to play again a few months later. It causes periodic disruptions in my life, already over the week it has kept me up way too late at night.

            Some people don't dig turn based games though, and some prefer fantasy (Master of Magic, Warlords, Age of Wonder), or history (Civ). I play all of them, but nobody can guarantee that you will have fun playing SMAC, I do though.

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            • #7
              I think the depth and complexity of the game is something that keeps me coming back to it...for example, recently I've been coming out of my Demo/Green/Knowledge shell and experimenting with other combinations of social engineering choices. I used to think I was a reasonable SMAC player, but when I posted my OMG Free Market!!11!1 thread I realised that really I wasn't much more than mediocre :/ and needed to learn new strategies to compensate. It's the variety of possible strategies that gets me - something I never felt in CivII. The civilisation you picked back then was immaterial - I played them all the same way, but you can't play Miriam the same way you play Lal, it simply won't work. I've had to change my playing style in response to faction combinations, alliances against me, even varying strategies used against me in my first fumbling MP games - but they all work, for a given value of 'work'. Or possibly of 'teapot'.

              As for the depth...well, the quotes, the SP videos, the interludes - the game is so, so rich, so well fleshed-out. It's like being inside an SF novel, almost. I mean, who doesn't shiver at the Dream Twister movie? At the 'I swear, sometimes they're watching me...' quote? CivIII doesn't have the Network Node song, or the 'Get off my land, you Peacekeeping son of a b1tch!' or the quotes from Nietsczhe and Kierkegaard and Plato.
              "Love the earth and sun and animals, despise riches, give alms to every one that asks, stand up for the stupid and crazy, devote your income and labor to others, hate tyrants, argue not concerning God, have patience and indulgence toward the people, take off your hat to nothing known or unknown . . . reexamine all you have been told at school or church or in any book, dismiss whatever insults your own soul, and your very flesh shall be a great poem and have the richest fluency" - Walt Whitman

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              • #8
                I was not into the whole space Sci-Fi thing, but SMAC is sooooooooo chaulk-full of gameplay.....I just NEED....ONE....MORE.....TURN!!!
                "They’re lazy troublemakers, and they all carry weapons." - SMAC Manual, Page 59 Regarding Drones
                "Without music, life would be a mistake." -- Friedrich Nietzsche
                "If fascism came to America it would be on a program of Americanism." -- Huey Long
                "Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to greater danger. It works the same in any country." -- Hermann Goering

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                • #9
                  Right there with you, also, some secret projects, I more anticipate the video than I do the effect on my society. Also took me a while to get just the right volume mix on winamp and the quotes in game so that I could hear them over the music without them being obtrusively loud, but some of them, particularly Yang's are softer in tone, so it's a bit tricky at times.

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                  • #10
                    don't let the funky technology names get you though. Just keep the poster near your computer and refer to it when figuring out what tech to research. The game is worth it imho. But I'd imagine some people get put off by the graphics and the technlogy which doesn't seem to make sense. The gameplay should be fun, as it's very similar to civ2 gameplay.

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                    • #11
                      I really appreciate everyone taking the time to contribute their good answers to this thread.

                      I know it was a newbie thread, but it really helps me to know that the smac community still plays and is willing to contribute help to me.

                      And you are right, Darsnan, chess is older and just as fun as it was on day 1.

                      And you are right as well, Whitering, nobody can garauntee that any game will be fun for anyone else. It was unfair of me to phrase the question that way. But thank you for telling me it's still fun for you, which is really what I guess I was asking.

                      Thanks again everyone for your help! Maybe I can play against some of you in e-mail games in a few months if you still play.
                      ..there are known ‘knowns’ There are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know we don't know. ~~Donald Rumsfeld

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                      • #12
                        I can't speak for anyone else, but I've been playing for nigh on seven years, and a few months isn't going to see me off :P
                        "Love the earth and sun and animals, despise riches, give alms to every one that asks, stand up for the stupid and crazy, devote your income and labor to others, hate tyrants, argue not concerning God, have patience and indulgence toward the people, take off your hat to nothing known or unknown . . . reexamine all you have been told at school or church or in any book, dismiss whatever insults your own soul, and your very flesh shall be a great poem and have the richest fluency" - Walt Whitman

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                        • #13
                          SMAC forever!!!
                          I watched you fall. I think I pushed.

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                          • #14
                            Played this crappy game for approx four years and will continue as long as my HW/OS can run it. No fancy graphics except the SP videos (just love those legs in Eudamonia ).

                            The big thing is that you can't learn to play it from start to end - each press on "new game" means that you have to think.

                            SMAX forever !!!
                            With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

                            Steven Weinberg

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                            • #15
                              Let's put it this way...SMAC isn't for everyone...but I think there are very few games that have as many hard-core dedication as SMAC does...you don't see people making tech trees, websites, faction editors, editing turtorials, graphs, and going on ebay to by a round piece of plastic for most games...yeah, you almost always have some dedicated fans, but this game just, really gets deep...unlike most games, all you really see is one portrait of the faction leaders, yet you feel attached to them personally, you love them, you hate them...

                              Look, there is a recent thread around here with all the quotes in the game...take the 20 minutes to read...really read them, and think about them...and I can guarentee you, if you take it seriously, those quotes, from a VIDEOGAME, will change how you see the world...

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