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  • #31
    Kaboth

    well thanks!
    (if you're not being sarcastic that is, sometimes its hard to tell over the internet and the roll eyes does make your intentions somewhat ambigous, if you are being sarcastic, it's all good too)

    Ka Plewy

    The way my schedule works there are times when I can find huge chunks of free time, like on a weekend...like tommorrow
    Sometimes I have virtually all Saturday and Sunday to myself, other times I find myself with very little time during the week. I'm fairly sure that I could guarantee 1-3 turns a week in any given random week. I know some weeks I could probably fit in 10-12 depending on how fast the other person responded, but that isn't an average week. While I'm sure that occasionally it could take me like ten days to send in a turn. I don't find a slow pace like that rewarding however.

    I know my brother and I used to play when we lived together (I forget if it was internet play with IP addresses even though we were in the same house or if it was on a lan) and that was quite fun.

    Damn I just realized that I lost my tech chart poster and instruction manual during one of my many moves since 1999.

    I used to unfold it on my bed and scan over it looking for the best way to beeline for those important techs. I think I still have my disk around here somewhere. Who knows maybe I'll reinstall it and give it a whirl tommorrow lol.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by korn469

      ... and while many of Civ3's design decision helped the AI it left me with an empty feeling after playing the game. I felt channeled into one single way of playing the game, because every strategy seemed to require the same playstyle, and the game had no personality or polish. SMAc had tons of personality, intellectual polish ...
      I strongly disagree with this comment. There is a vast array of playing styles available in C3C to choose from. If you are always playing in the same manner you are not playing "correctly".

      I've been playing civ for years now, and I find every game different yet the same. I always learn something new.
      If you fail to plan, you plan to fail.
      Ailing Civilization Strategy
      How to win on Deity Builder style, step-by-step
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      • #33
        I recently started a game of SMAC for the first time in quite a while. I can remember why I liked it so much

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Drakan
          I strongly disagree with this comment. There is a vast array of playing styles available in C3C to choose from. If you are always playing in the same manner you are not playing "correctly".

          I've been playing civ for years now, and I find every game different yet the same. I always learn something new.
          Unfortunately korn is right on the money. Civ3 is terribly limited in scope. You just don't have players discussing tactics to prevent infiltration or using settlers as emergency defense. There is no equivelent to the all specialists and tight borehole ICS, etc, etc, etc. SMAC simply has more options, with more options, comes more diversity in play. You can't even have a covert war in Civ3 anymore since they remove the spy.
          "They’re lazy troublemakers, and they all carry weapons." - SMAC Manual, Page 59 Regarding Drones
          "Without music, life would be a mistake." -- Friedrich Nietzsche
          "If fascism came to America it would be on a program of Americanism." -- Huey Long
          "Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to greater danger. It works the same in any country." -- Hermann Goering

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          • #35
            Yeah, Korn's right on the money as far as I am concerned as well. Civ3's gameplay is watered down to the point where the AI can play competitively, and the resulting simplicity makes playing the game a very staid experience, whether you are winning or losing. What I would have preferred was a game in similar complexity to SMAC/X, with improved graphics, a rearranged tech tree to prevent some of the more abusive early techs from gaining so much pre-eminence (Let's face it, crawling resources is HUGE, and should be a late game tech in a Civ game, if available at all), and a vastly improved AI, which understood the need to terraform, expand and build its economy, as well as merely build and move units.

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            • #36
              Civ 3 is for people you like strategy, but not with moral values and idealogies involved, or in some cases, individuality...

              Ultimately, I can only imagine SMAC going out of date when technology is reseached or discoveries are made that contradict SMAC...for example, people actually land on Chiron and find out its all mud, or even worse, there are no planets in Alpha Centauri...but even then, that's why there are mods...

              But boosts to quality and sounds and graphics would always be nice...

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              • #37
                Civ--->Most players will relate to the game for historical and nationalistic tendencies.

                SMAC---->Players relate to the game because of ideology. I've found ideology is much stronger than nationalistic tendencies. It's what we believe in.

                That said, I too have started playing SMAC again....with my faction of choice, of course.

                Hiver for ever!!!!! Mwa-ha-ha-haaaaa!
                Despot-(1a) : a ruler with absolute power and authority (1b) : a person exercising power tyrannically
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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Commy
                  ...for example, people actually land on Chiron and find out its all mud, or even worse, there are no planets in Alpha Centauri...but even then, that's why there are mods...
                  We will know this in our lifetimes for sure... if a dedicated Planetfinder telescope is launched in space!
                  He who knows others is wise.
                  He who knows himself is enlightened.
                  -- Lao Tsu

                  SMAC(X) Marsscenario

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Flubber
                    I doubt I will ever stop playing
                    Now isn't that the truth!!

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                    • #40
                      It's ALIVE!! It's the Franken-thread, back from the dead.

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                      • #41
                        And yet, it is still as true today as it was back in 2005

                        For the record - I do play other games. Plus, I only just recently reloaded it, so I haven't been playing it all these years.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by BlackCat
                          Four years of playing and still not bored - I guess I'll stop when my last HW/OS capabable of running it breaks down (luckily I have three machines that can, so if I'm nice to them ....
                          QFT
                          With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

                          Steven Weinberg

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                          • #43
                            SMAC is a lot like this thread. I might binge on a new game. I might string a few new game binges together. It might be a few months, or a year, but SMAC will rise from the dead and I'll be playing it again. It is the game that has never failed to catch my attention.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Flubber
                              I doubt I will ever stop playing

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                              • #45
                                to Xian and Flubber. Hear hear.
                                "lol internet" ~ AAHZ

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