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  • #16
    Overall, the PoliticsForum quiz considers you a socially-orientated, materialist, internationalist, protectionist, controlled-market kind of person, who also seems quite Marxist.

    These characteristics would put you in the overall category of Marxist. Your natural home at PoliticsForum would be the Communism area.

    Below, on this page, is an analysis of the (up to) eight categories that you were sorted into above, and an explanation of how you scored on the eight scales used to determine these categorisations.

    The pages following this one show the breakdown of results for all participants on each question. You can freely navigate through the pages by using the hyperlinks in the top right of each page.






    HEhe

    This quiz is not as good as the Political compass in my opinion, because the questions are always oriented question that lead you to subjectivity.
    But that was nice to see lot of details, wich were almost true.

    But Kyoto treaty is good for USA, and that was very subjective to say that wasnt good for it. Since it was not good only for petrol and coals industry mostly, wich is the number 1 source of energy in usa. not good for rich people only. Like president of ESSO or other ****.


    They also have a false idea of communism in my view...


    Bad questions, not enough neutral, not very scientific...

    political compass was made by a group of independant scientist based in UK.

    The questions are also better in my opinion.

    But that was nice too.


    PS : specially liked this one :

    You scored 3 out of 100 on a scale of Protectionist vs Free Trader. This means that politically you are less likely to favour free trade over protectionist policies.

    1% of test takers were more protectionist than you.
    99% of test takers were more pro free trade than you.



    Maybe my futur degree in politics, is making me thinking like that.

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    • #17
      So I'm a little odd I know
      So come to oddworld - Latvia!
      -- What history has taught us is that people do not learn from history.
      -- Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.

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      • #18
        One day, I'm going to start believing these sites and go rogue or something...

        Individual vs. Social
        16 out of 100
        2% test takers are more individual

        Theist vs. Materialist
        87 out of 100
        7% are more materialist

        Big Gov vs. Small Gov
        100 out of 100
        0% more small gov

        Nationalist vs. Internationalist
        19 out of 100
        3% more nationalist

        Protectionist vs. Free Trader
        100 out of 100
        0% more pro free trade

        Absolutist vs. Non-absolutist
        53 out of 100
        34% more absolutist

        Controlled Market vs. Liberal Market
        99 out of 100
        1% more liberal

        Marxist vs. Non-marxist
        42 out of 100
        31% more marxist

        Roze and Morgan would be proud...

        Yang would probably shoot me...

        Our dear lady of the tree-hugging people would probably go insane...

        And about the aliens, they'd, well, I don't know what they'd do...I probably don't want to either, it could be like anal probing or something like that that only stupid butt-ugly aliens would do...

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        • #19
          Nah, they won't bother. You're only good to sharpen their tusks a bit...
          He who knows others is wise.
          He who knows himself is enlightened.
          -- Lao Tsu

          SMAC(X) Marsscenario

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          • #20
            So bintravakin what makes latvia odd world? Looks like a pretty normal eastern european parlimentary democracy to me. Probably on the way to drastic improvement now that it's been away from Russia for over ten years.
            A university faculty is 500 egoists with a common parking problem

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            • #21
              Oh yes and according to the political compus I am Around Nelson Mandelia and the Dalia lama. Sounds good to me.

              economic left right -2.38
              libertarian athoritarian -2.00
              A university faculty is 500 egoists with a common parking problem

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              • #22
                Economic Left/Right: -7.88
                Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.23

                and the quiz Maniac suggested labeled me as a "Marxist" which I agree I am not far off from, but.....[list=1][*]I don't believe in government ownership of industry.[*]My Government size score was 60% toward small government. I am not for big government.[*]For the most part I believe in Market Theory.[*]I don't believe in the equal distribution of wealth.[*]I don't even believe that a direct democrasy will lead to better, more moral government.[/list=1]
                OTOH.....[list=1][*]I do believe industries are destructively self-centered and must be regulated to prevent worker and enviromental abuses.[*]Basic utillies (water, power, heating, but not say, telecom) should be either run by the governement or at least highly regulated to avoid price gouging.[*]Every citizen in a nation as wealthy as the USA should get basic health care, public schools[*]I believe increased income should be an incentive for productivity, as long as the taxes increase as well (sliding scale tax)[*]Trade protectionism has its place and time to protect domestic jobs. Cheaper consumer imports wont do the unemployed any good.[/list=1]
                I even believe in classic conservative economic belief that you don't spend more than you make, even if some social programs must be cut.

                So what is it? Am I a Marxist or just generally left of center or something else? I guess i can't even tell anymore.
                "They’re lazy troublemakers, and they all carry weapons." - SMAC Manual, Page 59 Regarding Drones
                "Without music, life would be a mistake." -- Friedrich Nietzsche
                "If fascism came to America it would be on a program of Americanism." -- Huey Long
                "Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to greater danger. It works the same in any country." -- Hermann Goering

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                • #23
                  For the record, I'm a socially-orientated, materialist, (Euro)protectionist, non-absolutist, controlled-market kind of person.

                  Originally posted by WotanAnubis
                  It's a bit more difficult connecting these ideals to any of the SMAC/X factions.
                  Really? I consider it easier. With only two axises as in the Compass many factions would resemble each other.

                  The original seven for example:

                  Gaia:
                  Social Theist (Planet) Small Government Factionalist Protectionist Controlled Market

                  Hive:
                  Social Materialist Big Government Factionalist Protectionist Controlled Market Marxist

                  University:
                  Individual Materialist Interfactionalist (free info flow) Absolutist (science)

                  Believers:
                  Social Theist Big Government Absolutist

                  Morgan:
                  Individual Materialist Small Government Interfactionalist Free Trader Liberal Market Non-Marxist

                  Sparta:
                  Individual Materialist Factionalist Non-absolutist (might makes right)

                  Peacekeepers:
                  Social Interfactionalist (united humany) Absolutist (human rights)
                  Contraria sunt Complementa. -- Niels Bohr
                  Mods: SMAniaC (SMAC) & Planetfall (Civ4)

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by livid imp
                    So what is it? Am I a Marxist or just generally left of center or something else? I guess i can't even tell anymore.
                    Reading your description I'd call you a very normal (to Eurostandards ) social-democrat.
                    Contraria sunt Complementa. -- Niels Bohr
                    Mods: SMAniaC (SMAC) & Planetfall (Civ4)

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                    • #25
                      [Q
                      So what is it? Am I a Marxist or just generally left of center or something else? I guess i can't even tell anymore. [/QUOTE]

                      In the USA you would be a very left leaning almost socialist democract. A follower of Howard Dean rather than John Kerry or Liberman.
                      A university faculty is 500 egoists with a common parking problem

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Maniac
                        Reading your description I'd call you a very normal (to Eurostandards ) social-democrat.
                        Thanks

                        That is basically what I have thought. I identify so much with Europe politically, I have considered moving there. But I feel it is my duty to stay in the US if nothing else to try to moderate its recent conservative swell. It like we have regressed 500 years into the past around here.
                        I don't exepect all Americans to fully understand my views, and I understand that after being attacked a country's natural reaction is to shift to the right, even I was looking for blood after 9/11; but the current political climate here is dangerous not only to Americans, but to the whole world.
                        "They’re lazy troublemakers, and they all carry weapons." - SMAC Manual, Page 59 Regarding Drones
                        "Without music, life would be a mistake." -- Friedrich Nietzsche
                        "If fascism came to America it would be on a program of Americanism." -- Huey Long
                        "Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to greater danger. It works the same in any country." -- Hermann Goering

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by dacole
                          So what is it? Am I a Marxist or just generally left of center or something else? I guess i can't even tell anymore.
                          In the USA you would be a very left leaning almost socialist democract. A follower of Howard Dean rather than John Kerry or Liberman.
                          Whoa, Howard Dead is hardly that leftist, believe me I wish he was. Perhaps you were thinking of Nader? I like both men, especially Nader. That man is my hero, he is so incorrputable he doesn't own a car, or credit cards. Not having a car in California is a major pain in the asscott. I wish I was so strong to go without. Unfortunately America is entirely too right wing anymore for him to have a chance at politic office

                          Oh and I can't stand Liberman, he represents all that is wrong with the left. Racial politics have been dead since the late 80's, and he'll go on an on about how oppressed the blacks and jews are. BS, there is no more race war in America, it is all about economics now. Not white vs. black, but rich vs. poor
                          Last edited by livid imp; January 31, 2005, 13:32.
                          "They’re lazy troublemakers, and they all carry weapons." - SMAC Manual, Page 59 Regarding Drones
                          "Without music, life would be a mistake." -- Friedrich Nietzsche
                          "If fascism came to America it would be on a program of Americanism." -- Huey Long
                          "Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to greater danger. It works the same in any country." -- Hermann Goering

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                          • #28
                            Heh personally I can't stand Nadar or Dean though you should look at dean again based on what you said above he supports most of your polices. Have not heard Liberman go on about race war but I do think part of the problem is still black vs white. Simply because the percentage of black people that are poor is so much higher than the percentage of white people. Sorry you don't like him (though I am not surprised) I do agree with you that we have swung way to far to the right but europe and Canada is way to economicly left for me. Socialism takes away to much of the incentive to work. That is just my opinon however intelligent well meaning people can disagree. I understand the beef with cars I use public transportation every chance I get, though since I live in North Carolina it is rather difficult. What is his beef with credit cards? I have two don't carry a balance on them however (that's just economic suicide). Nadar and the green party are way to socialist for me and anti free trade for that matter.
                            A university faculty is 500 egoists with a common parking problem

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                            • #29
                              I think we should just screw it all and go back to colonial times:

                              Federalist vs. Anti-federalist

                              No, that's even complex, how about this

                              Pro-American vs. Anti-American

                              No, that's just cruel...

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                              • #30
                                Theyre all parodies, more or less, of current ideologies of the late 90s when the game was made.

                                Yang is "asian" system authoritarian, an extreme version of Lee Kuan Yew(sp?) and other advocates of a unique asian alternative to democracy. Kinda out of fashion after the '98 financial crisis.

                                Dee: Greenie - well D'oh

                                Morgan: business conservative - a parody of Univ of Chicago economics.

                                Lal: Mainstream US-UK liberalism

                                Miriam: Christian Right. This game was made when these folks had emerged very fast into the public eye, and these guys were going hard after Clinton.

                                Santiago: Survivalist - think Ruby Ridge, think Y2K nuts, think the US militia movement.

                                Zak: Miriams foil - knowledge above all - one of the few factions in the original game not based on contemporary politics.


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                                Miriam and Morgan, and to a lesser extent Santiago, are personifications of the forces behind Newt Gingrich, who obviously didnt make Brian feel all warm and fuzzy.
                                "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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