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Is the game balanced? the aliens seemed to be far more powerful than the humans. The university's advantage is in tech but the caretakers totally beat them to it.
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There are lots of threads discussing this, if you want to do a search (nudge).
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the aliens seemed to be far more powerful than the humans.
Naturally, but they are supposed to be quite intolerant in diplomacy. No commerce, (which is often greater than the energy grid, and say, +3 Econ makes no difference whatsoever, and +4, and +5, less of an impact) no participation on the council, therefore no chance of universal infiltration without Empath Guild....Arise ye starvelings from your slumbers; arise ye prisoners of want
The reason for revolt now thunders; and at last ends the age of "can't"
Away with all your superstitions -servile masses, arise, arise!
We'll change forthwith the old conditions And spurn the dust to win the prizeComment
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The aliens are intentionally overly strong in order to force the humans to either ally with one of the aliens, and thus p!$$ing off the other, or the humans can band together to fight off the aliens. Either way, it forces strategies rarely employed in vanila SMAC."They’re lazy troublemakers, and they all carry weapons." - SMAC Manual, Page 59 Regarding Drones
"Without music, life would be a mistake." -- Friedrich Nietzsche
"If fascism came to America it would be on a program of Americanism." -- Huey Long
"Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to greater danger. It works the same in any country." -- Hermann GoeringComment
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But there can only be 7 players at a time thoughOriginally posted by livid imp
The aliens are intentionally overly strong in order to force the humans to either ally with one of the aliens, and thus p!$$ing off the other, or the humans can band together to fight off the aliens. Either way, it forces strategies rarely employed in vanila SMAC.Comment
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aliens are tough, but a lot of it depends on their starting location. But if they start in the monsoon jungle- watch out!Comment
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If you're lucky, they might just start next to eachother and kill eachother's military. Of course, it would be bad if one of them one and became a superpower, then you're really screwed...
Ultimately, the advantages of the aliens, except maybe the resonance crap, are either not as good as the humans, or aren't long term advantages. Most are short term. The problem is, if those 'short term' advantages kill you, it doesn't matter if they're long term or not...Comment
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Yaaaahhh....what is your point?Originally posted by grobnok
But there can only be 7 players at a time though
"They’re lazy troublemakers, and they all carry weapons." - SMAC Manual, Page 59 Regarding Drones
"Without music, life would be a mistake." -- Friedrich Nietzsche
"If fascism came to America it would be on a program of Americanism." -- Huey Long
"Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to greater danger. It works the same in any country." -- Hermann GoeringComment
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Of course that statement really can apply to any faction starting in the monsoon jungle.Originally posted by Dissident
aliens are tough, but a lot of it depends on their starting location. But if they start in the monsoon jungle- watch out!
I recently started a game where Miriam landed in the MJ. Before I found her I couldn't understand why Miriam of all people was keeping up with me in the power graph. Then to my horror I find her alone, in the MJ, ahead of me in tech, with about 4x as many bases as I have and she doesn't like me. Thankfully she is on an island and the AI is rather stupid when it comes to water-born invasion."They’re lazy troublemakers, and they all carry weapons." - SMAC Manual, Page 59 Regarding Drones
"Without music, life would be a mistake." -- Friedrich Nietzsche
"If fascism came to America it would be on a program of Americanism." -- Huey Long
"Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to greater danger. It works the same in any country." -- Hermann GoeringComment
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yeah that's true. MJ is just too powerful (unless I start in it- then it's okay
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But I think the usurpers are a bit more powerful than the believers.Comment
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[QUOTE] Originally posted by Commy
If you're lucky, they might just start next to eachother and kill eachother's military. Of course, it would be bad if one of them one and became a superpower, then you're really screwed...
That is exactly what happened to me. The usurpers killed off the care takers very early in the game and quickly became the dominating force in the game. Now much later in the game I have just caught up to them as we are about equal in power and the only other surviving faction is the pirates but they are quite a step down.Comment
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Not once you factor inOriginally posted by Dissident
But I think the usurpers are a bit more powerful than the believers.
GAS!
You can wipe out both Alien factions within a few rounds with gas and not hear a peep about it from your fellow humans. I typically don't put Aliens in my games cause once I get 6x-1-? units, they are nothing more than grease stains."They’re lazy troublemakers, and they all carry weapons." - SMAC Manual, Page 59 Regarding Drones
"Without music, life would be a mistake." -- Friedrich Nietzsche
"If fascism came to America it would be on a program of Americanism." -- Huey Long
"Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to greater danger. It works the same in any country." -- Hermann GoeringComment
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Can you planetbust them with impunity as well?Comment
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I think so, but I dont know for sure. I'm not much of a PB kinda guy. Three attacks from a inexpensive gas chopper takes out a level 7 city. AI really isn't worth a PB, too stupid. I could see using them in MP though."They’re lazy troublemakers, and they all carry weapons." - SMAC Manual, Page 59 Regarding Drones
"Without music, life would be a mistake." -- Friedrich Nietzsche
"If fascism came to America it would be on a program of Americanism." -- Huey Long
"Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to greater danger. It works the same in any country." -- Hermann GoeringComment
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I don't think you can PB them. But gas is king!Comment
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