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    Got something wierd going on in my current game:
    I'm pacted with Myriam and Yang (while in a democracy!) with a very thin defense (6 probe plasmas for 15 bases)

    My pact bro and sis have so much pity with me they are giving me units. I got 50 units in 10 turns!
    Since i'm morgan, they cripled my production, I now just disband the units (in a city of course), while they keep on giving units.
    What is their goal? Why are they so sweet to me? I don't trust them ...

    Greetz
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  • #2
    If you look militarily weak, a nearby AI pact mate will gift you unit after unit-- It does cripple production supporting these but you are already doing the best thing and disbanding them for the minerals. Just enjoy it dor as long as it continues and think of it as a gift of minerals
    You don't get to 300 losses without being a pretty exceptional goaltender.-- Ben Kenobi speaking of Roberto Luongo

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    • #3
      Are they gifting there latest (advanced) units or just their old rubble?

      Gifting the old stuff to you makes production free for their latest tech units off course...
      He who knows others is wise.
      He who knows himself is enlightened.
      -- Lao Tsu

      SMAC(X) Marsscenario

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      • #4
        If you upgrade them all with high weapons and clean reactors, while expensive, it will save a lot of time, and your military will be a lot better.

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        • #5
          AI Yang particularly can get out of control gifting units. I once built an entire SP out of submissive Yang's obsolete units.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by RedFred
            AI Yang particularly can get out of control gifting units. I once built an entire SP out of submissive Yang's obsolete units.
            yup -- I love it

            There is really no downside to these gifts if you can disband them quickly-- The disband value of even the crappiest unit will exceed its support cost
            You don't get to 300 losses without being a pretty exceptional goaltender.-- Ben Kenobi speaking of Roberto Luongo

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            • #7
              I also consider them as gifts of mineral packets, usually disbanding them to hurry SP's or expensive units (because they are more expensive to rushbuy). Altough sometimes I keep them around as defenders, especially the better morale and more easily upgraded ones.

              edit: I also sometimes just give them back, like if due to some convolution of territory it'll take ages to get it to a base to disband.
              Last edited by Blake; July 22, 2004, 22:55.

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              • #8
                Or what you can do to tick them off is give them back, or better yet, give them to their enemies...

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                • #9
                  yeah, that's fun indeed!!
                  He who knows others is wise.
                  He who knows himself is enlightened.
                  -- Lao Tsu

                  SMAC(X) Marsscenario

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                  • #10
                    Miriam is a very strange girl. At a certain moment she give 5 units (her best attack units), decides to give up the pact, then decides to go to war, and attacks the units she has just given to me. Because that were her best units she loses 7 units to kill those 5 and 10 turns later she enters a submissive pact with me ...


                    AI is verrrry strange.
                    Last edited by -SafaN-; July 24, 2004, 11:28.
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                    • #11
                      Had to start a war to feel good about herself. Ah, Miriam, relax, will ya?
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                      • #12
                        Nah, those high tech units didn't appeal to hear fundamental wordview... But now -SafaN- can direct her with a firm hand. Lucky girl!
                        He who knows others is wise.
                        He who knows himself is enlightened.
                        -- Lao Tsu

                        SMAC(X) Marsscenario

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by -SafaN-
                          Miriam is a very strange girl. At a certain moment she give 5 units (her best attack units), decides to give up the pact, then decides to go to war, and attacks the units she has just given to me. Because that were her best units she loses 7 units to kill those 5 and 10 turns later she enters a submissive pact with me ...


                          AI is verrrry strange.
                          Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?

                          It's no good (from an evolutionary point of view) to have the physique of Tarzan if you have the sex drive of a philosopher. -- Michael Ruse
                          The Nedaverse I can accept, but not the Berzaverse. There can only be so many alternate realities. -- Elok

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                          • #14
                            Or like the time I unleashed mindworms into the wild, and of course, being Diedre, she had to capture them and give them back to me...

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by -SafaN-
                              Miriam is a very strange girl. At a certain moment she give 5 units (her best attack units), decides to give up the pact, then decides to go to war, and attacks the units she has just given to me. Because that were her best units she loses 7 units to kill those 5 and 10 turns later she enters a submissive pact with me ...


                              AI is verrrry strange.
                              One time Miriam declared war on me right after I built the Empath Guild, along with just about everyone else. She didn't even call me up and announce it, I simply got the message. Almost 100 years later I finally see her first unit approaching in a Unity foil. On board is her free scout patrol. As she presents no threat to me I allow her to approach my shores rather than be sunk by my shard copters. Breathlessly I await the outcome of our first face to face encounter. The Unity foil approaches one of my bases and Miriam appears on my viewscreen, and immediately surrenders completely!
                              He's got the Midas touch.
                              But he touched it too much!
                              Hey Goldmember, Hey Goldmember!

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