What bugs you most

[kelvinhole]

Yeah, how wide are the squares?

[jtsisyoda]

If we use the Earth as a guide, its circumference is about 24,000 miles or 38,500 km. Divide that by 80 squares (medium world) and that's about 300 miles/square, or 480 km/square. There really ought to be 100 times as many squares if we want to make it "realistic" as far as the scale of current-day cities.

[livid imp]

Originally posted by ESpark
The AI (all I ever play against) doesn't seem to.

Start up a game in the editor, watch the AI. The AI will almost always go around fungus. On the times they go through it, they do get bounced out too.

[Minty]

What bugs me is not knowing how the factions see each other. Like in CIV3 where you can see who's at war and who has an alliance.

[Hydro]

Espark – what you with the xenofungus was done on purpose. The fungus is supposed to act at conduits for Planetmind, and as such are interconnected. If you look at Map of Planet you will see that the fungus occurs in lines, and that these lines cross each other. This is Planet’s neural net, and it is the manifestation of the integrated (and engineered) ecology of Chiron. It is supposed to be this way across land and sea, and generally is even on randomly created maps.

As for entering fungus tiles, you will find that if you have a positive Planet rating you will be able to enter the tile more often than not. Someone recently tested this and found that you could enter as, say, Gaians about 80% of the time. This seems true to me, since I play Gaians a lot. Planet-neutral factions have more of a 50-50 chance, and it seems that those with a negative Planet rating (Believers or marketeers) have less than 50-50. When you think about it this makes sense. This is, after all, an integrated and hostile alien ecology, and a small group of humans might have a real tough time getting through. But, a faction that understands Planet and how the fungus works will have an easier time making their way through.

Again, what you see is as planned. If it irritates you then play Gaians or Cult for a while!

Hydro

[smacksim]

Originally posted by Minty
What bugs me is not knowing how the factions see each other. Like in CIV3 where you can see who's at war and who has an alliance.

If you have the factions infiltrated with a probe, have the governorship, or have the Empath Guild, you will see this info by right-clicking on the commlink frequency of the faction and choosing 'faction profile'

[livid imp]

bah! ignore

[Qwerty88]

Originally posted by jtsisyoda
If we use the Earth as a guide, its circumference is about 24,000 miles or 38,500 km. Divide that by 80 squares (medium world) and that's about 300 miles/square, or 480 km/square. There really ought to be 100 times as many squares if we want to make it "realistic" as far as the scale of current-day cities.

Planet is somewhat larger than earth though according to the planets.txt file:

Planetary constants Earth Planet Ratio
Surface area m2 5.10E+14 7.18E+14 1.41

meaning tiles are about 520 miles/square or 680 km/square

[EternalSpark]

Just FYI, this is ESpark. Did an old search, realized that I must have forgotten I had this, older, account when I regged. Contacted the forum guys so they can get rid of the other account.

Originally posted by livid imp
Start up a game in the editor, watch the AI. The AI will almost always go around fungus. On the times they go through it, they do get bounced out too.

I've done just that, and oddly enough, I get the exact opposite to be true - they go right through, not a problem. Ever. Morgan with FM? No problemo. Dee with Green? No problem.

Player? Problem.

Its no matter - its wrong, so I fixed it. Reload until it works properly.

[livid imp]

Originally posted by EternalSpark
I've done just that, and oddly enough, I get the exact opposite to be true - they go right through, not a problem. Ever. Morgan with FM? No problemo. Dee with Green? No problem.

Hmm. I swear I remember watching the AI bounce repeatedly off the fungus. Well, if not, I stand corrected. I'm going to check again tonight.

[livid imp]

Originally posted by Qwerty88
meaning tiles are about 520 miles/square or 680 km/square

Damn, that is even worse than I imagined. A mere six tiles of fungus would run from L.A. to New York.

[Commy]

Don't forget the AI crawling fungus squares...

Or the AI PBing their own bases...

Or for existing at all...

[Straybow]

The AI seems to explore faster than I can, and only an easier time crossing fungus really explains it.

[jtsisyoda]

Originally posted by Qwerty88


Planet is somewhat larger than earth though according to the planets.txt file:



meaning tiles are about 520 miles/square or 680 km/square

That says surface area is 1.41 times as much, which means the circumference is more like 1.19 times as much. So 360 miles/square, 580 km/square.

[GeoModder]

I always gathered that Earth should be on large size while Chiron is then the huge size.

That earth map I made was just doable on large size, although it is impossable to make Europe as it should...