Industry, Growth, and Economy

[Commy]

Does anybody actually know the formulas used to calculate the rows and columns needed when growth and industry in SE are changed? Or are all of these formulas made up from speculating? If only Firaxis actually responded to consumer e-mails, we might be able to find out. And I still think the computer tries to get the most energy in the future. The AI doesn't care about research. If true, it would explain why Deirdre does Wealth, and Lal, Morgan, Roze, Domai, Yang, and Miriam usually do Eudaimonia, when given a choice. Of course, that's under controlled conditions in the beginning of the game.

[Chaos Theory]

I derived these formulas from checking many different conditions, from base row widths of 1 through 15, 90, and 100.

[Commy]

I see. Honestly, you people think too much. It ruins the whole fun of the game. And, it takes the realism out if everything you do is calculated. Then you'll be like the AI.

[Enigma_Nova]

Originally posted by Commy
I see. Honestly, you people think too much.

You devalue us because our strategies differ?

It ruins the whole fun of the game.

You think what is fun for you has to be fun for everyone?

And, it takes the realism out if everything you do is calculated.

Then you ignore the unrealism of a President making decisions on impulse?

Then you'll be like the AI.

You want us to be like WHAT?

Please think twice before insulting people here.
One more post like that and you're being reported.

[Chaos Theory]

Besides, much of this information is useful to people making mods. Do you expect them to ignore the mechanics of the game?

[Enigma_Nova]

Preemptively posted by Commy
The game's fine as it is.
What would motivate any sane human being to make a mod?
You really have no social life.

No, commy - there are balance issues in the game, and most of us get bored with the same old game.
There are those among us who enjoy thinking and creating.
In the end, Apolyton is part of a healthy social life.
BTW your second post was more well-phrased than your first.

[Commy]

Enigma_Nova

First off, the preemptive-quote there doesn't make sense, since I'm a stupid person and I have no idea what a mod is, and since I don't have a social life myself, I would never insult someone because their's included computer game characters, and secondly, the president doesn't calculate that under democracy the US will grow exactly 20% faster, but that on a small map the effects are not as great, and that if there were indeed 15 rows, it would not be exactly 20%, more like 2 or 3 less rows. Of course, with Bush as president, you never know. And lastly, I have nothing against people who wish to take time to be "creative", and I never insulted those who wish to make mods (whatever those may be) and I never said that "balancing" the game is wrong or unworthy, but if you take it as an insult, then you must truly have the diplomatic skills of the AI (god help us all). Now someone's going to complain to me about "using the lord's name in vain" and blah blah blah.

[GeoModder]

Originally posted by Commy
... then you must truly have the diplomatic skills of the AI (god help us all).

Gimme more!!

[Illuminatus]

Typical Enigma_Nova.

/me waits for more

[Enigma_Nova]

I thought I'd save you some time by replying to things before you said them.
Since you'd rather post impulsively, I'll take each of your posts as they come. Flames spread upredictably.

I'm a stupid person and I have no idea what a mod is,

A mod keeps these boards in check by locking spam threads.
I see you'd enjoy a first-hand lesson; you are not as stupid as you'd like to think you are.

and since I don't have a social life myself, I would never insult someone because their's included computer game characters,

Nope. Because that would be a pointless insult, and you've obviously had enough social experience to avoid such mistakes.

the president doesn't calculate that under democracy the US will grow exactly 20% faster, but that on a small map the effects are not as great, and that if there were indeed 15 rows, it would not be exactly 20%, more like 2 or 3 less rows.

If his government knew all the variables of the equation and had the computational power to consider them, do you think they'd avoid considering these variables and lead the country less than to the best of their abilities?
No, I don't think so.

but if you take it as an insult, then you must truly have the diplomatic skills of the AI (god help us all).

The only way you can annoy me is by ignoring me and refusing to reply to this post, but you lack the self-control to do that.

Now someone's going to complain to me about "using the lord's name in vain"

Yes, I believe that was you. Well done.

PS.
Paragraphs, mother****er. CAN YOU USE THEM?

[Enigma_Nova]

Enigma_Nova:
For a person with such an advanced internet life, you'd think your ISP wouldn't lag you 3 times on the same page.

[Enigma_Nova]

Laggy connection. Poor ISP.

[Enigma_Nova]

Quad Damage
...or something like that...

[Chaos Theory]

You know, I'd rather this thread not devolve to the point that it gets closed. If you two like each other that much, remember that private messages exist.

[Enigma_Nova]

I did this on request.
If people want me to keep flaming, they'll have to join in - I will not continue a flamewar for no point whatsoever.

Aside from +1, that is.