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  • Beeline to Hab Dome: Strategy or Superstition?

    I just played a "Beeline to Hab Dome" game and complained the entire time, then turned around and broke my Transcend speed record.

    I had Hab Domes for maybe 22 turns before transcending ... how big an impact could Hab Domes have had over 22 years? How much longer would it have taken if, after researching the tech, I simply didn't build any, leaving all bases at size 16?

    I'm still trying to figure out whether the relentless focus on getting to Hab Domes had anything to do with it or not. For most of the game it "felt" like things were going slowly, which is completely at odds with what was really happening.

    Did that "feeling of being behind" cause me to make better decisions? Or was it the Hab Domes themselves, miraculously compressing the rest of the game into 22 years of frenetic growth?

    I'm nonplussed, so I thought I'd put the question to the Apolyton SMAC-X Academy. Beeline to Hab Domes: clever strategy or Dumbo's "magic feather"?

    (For you non-Americans, Dumbo was a Disney movie in which a flight-capable animal incorrectly attributes its ability to fly to a "magic feather" rather than intrinsic aerodynamic qualities.)

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    How many bases did you have, and how much did you use the hab domes (how much did they grow)? Also, did you build all the SP's on the way? There are good builder techs on the way to hab domes; that might have something to do with it. Can you please give more details about this? In single-player I use hab domes alot, mostly for aesthetic purposes (I like having pop 40 bases as I churn out Transcendent Thought 50) and I would very much like not to feel stupid.

    Nice recap of Dumbo, by the way.
    Who exactly lives in the United Nations? If you are a hobo and you sleep in front of the U.N. building, does that count?

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    • #3
      If you got the full use of the 22 extra pop, turning them to tech specialists in every base, I can imagine it certainly made you transcend a few turns faster.

      -Jam
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      That's like trying to overninja a ninja when you aren't a mammal. CAN'T BE DONE. - Kassi on doublecrossing Ljube-ljcvetko
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      • #4
        Population is power throughout the game. I always beeline for hab dones. Especially as Morgan!
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        • #5
          Beelining for Hab Domes is good if you know you can use them. Which means pop booming. So, if you've lost the race to Cloning Vats as Morgan, it might become difficult. The problem is that specialists don't count as talents. So when your base is more than half full of specialists, there is no Golden Age and therefore no pop boom.

          Which reminds me of creating a new thread ...
          Why doing it the easy way if it is possible to do it complicated?

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          • #6
            If you read through some of Sikander's older posts, you'll see that by late game, nutrients supporting specialists wind up being BY FAR the most effective source of income in the late game. Once you have satellites, a crawler taking in 6 nutrients (standard for a square with a condenser/farm) will support 6 transcends, and also generate 6 energy and minerals.

            That winds up adding up to a TON of credits and labs, most of which will be completely unaffected by efficiency (specialist income isn't impacted by low efficiency). Therefore, once you've hit hab domes, you'll be best served by paving over your energy park with a nutrient park.

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            • #7
              ummm 6 nuts supports 3 pop, Aaron.
              /me slaps you around a bit with a large trout
              EDIT:
              Unless you consider nutrient sattelites...
              /me slaps himself around a bit with a large trout

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                • #9
                  Better question: Vats, Domes or Domes, Vats?

                  If you're going Domes, your obvious second priority is Vats. The reverse would seem to hold as well.

                  I'm thinking Vats then Domes, because of the Clean Reactors you get on the way to Vats, but Domes has Fusion in its line. Fusion's pretty nice.

                  Opinions?

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                  • #10
                    Vats then Domes. You don't want someone else to grab the Vats.

                    And the Longevity Vaccine is beautiful if you're running Planned.

                    -Jam
                    1) The crappy metaspam is an affront to the true manner of the artform. - Dauphin
                    That's like trying to overninja a ninja when you aren't a mammal. CAN'T BE DONE. - Kassi on doublecrossing Ljube-ljcvetko
                    Check out the ALL NEW Galactic Overlord Website for v2.0 and the Napoleonic Overlord Website or even the Galactic Captians Website Thanks Geocities!
                    Taht 'ventisular link be woo to clyck.

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                    • #11
                      Longevity Vaccine just quells drones. By the time I'm considering Hab domes, I'm well into an all-specialist plan, working only a handful of tiles, and crawling nuts for the majority of my population.

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                      • #12
                        A base with 5 specialists, 5 workers and 1 drone still riots.

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                        • #13
                          There is one reason to run FM, the Longevity Vaccine profit bonus to your SSC.

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                          • #14
                            Longevity Vaccine allows turbo ICS with the PTS, VW and HGP in Planned/Demo. Just plonk down bases and rush a node then a creche.

                            Its insane.

                            -Jam
                            1) The crappy metaspam is an affront to the true manner of the artform. - Dauphin
                            That's like trying to overninja a ninja when you aren't a mammal. CAN'T BE DONE. - Kassi on doublecrossing Ljube-ljcvetko
                            Check out the ALL NEW Galactic Overlord Website for v2.0 and the Napoleonic Overlord Website or even the Galactic Captians Website Thanks Geocities!
                            Taht 'ventisular link be woo to clyck.

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                            • #15
                              Enigma,
                              In a really heavy specialist approach, you'll never get as much as 6 worked tiles
                              You'll work three boreholes, that's all. As soon as you've got a sensible number of facilities/SPs, such as VW, HGP, and nodes, you simply don't have two workers and one drone.

                              Btw. Do you prefer Thinkers over Engineers, or vice versa? Much more money or a little more labs and psych?
                              Why doing it the easy way if it is possible to do it complicated?

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