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    PolyCast Episode 44: "Holy Mackerel"

    The fourty-fourth episode of PolyCast (PC), an official podcast of Apolyton Civilization Site (ACS), is guestless but still restless. "Holy Mackerel" now netcasting features Daniel "DanQ" Quick, Makahlua and Imran Siddiqui with Annalee "Cartimandua" Barney as its co-hosts. This installment runs for 44m59s.

    PC is a bi-weekly one-hour audio production of ACS is an ongoing effort to give the Civ community an interactive voice on game strategy; its sibling show ModCast focuses on Civ modding. To date, ACS is the only known community on the Web to produce its own Civ podcasts.
    Last edited by DanQ; August 23, 2008, 23:45.
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    Summary of Topics

    - 03m41s | News
    Infogrames is set to buy the outstanding shares of Atari, and the prospects of online validation for games every 10 days [follow-up].
    - 13m19s | Research Lab
    Considering scrapping the Fat-X city radius in the Civilization series and the testing ground that will be Revolution in this respect.
    - 18m43s | Senate
    Is warfare, and indeed warmongering, too important in Civ IV.
    - 24m09s | Forum Talk
    Removing or at least modifying global warming and its effects, on hydro power and such, and what's new to know that's coming in Civ Rev.
    - 35m29s | Vault
    THG being set to by Brian Reynolds' Big Huge Games and a Top 10 list for "Things I Learned About the Science of Warfare" through Civ IV.

    - Intro/Outro | Miscellaneous
      Do you rename your civ mid-game, and at least one advantage to bringing back the Civilization II renaming system.
    Last edited by DanQ; May 18, 2008, 15:15.
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    • #3
      Nice episode, but as usual, the political comments are particularly ill-informed.

      In this case, not so much a political comment as a scientific comment.

      No one has ever seriously suggested that global warming will arise from a nuclear war. The 1990 TTAPS study found that it was likely that nuclear winter and severe ozone depletion would result from a ~5000 megaton nuclear exchange. Not warming. Similarly, a recent (2006 or 2007, I think) study indicated that even a limited nuclear war might cause severe nuclear winter. Not warming.

      Nuclear winter - Wikipedia
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_winter

      http://environment.newscientist.com/channel/earth/dn11287-nuclear-winter-may-kill-more-than-a-nuclear-war.html



      I'd hope that this is clear enough so that even a PolyCast co-host would agree.

      But this is also why I've thought it particularly idiotic that the in-game mechanism is called "global warming". It shouldn't be. If you want a "global warming" mechanism in the game, it needs to be tied to the use of oil-fired and coal-fired units and buildings. If you want climate change caused by nuclear weapons, it needs to be nuclear winter. The two are not the same.

      If you wanted a catch-all, I suppose just call it "climate change".

      And also, I rename my cities. And my civ. All the time...usually to reflect my mood and/or the sort of game I'm playing. I've also edited out some city names that I don't particularly like.
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      • #4
        I believe "Global Warming" is simply used as a catch all term for Global Climate Change.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
          I believe "Global Warming" is simply used as a catch all term for Global Climate Change.
          No its not.


          The developers where just to lazy to rename it once they threw out polution.





          jkp1187

          I have raised that issue several times in the general forums. Those sort of things really tick me off, kind of like a black Cleopatra.
          Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
          The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
          The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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          • #6
            Originally posted by jkp1187
            Nice episode,


            And also, I rename my cities. And my civ. All the time...usually to reflect my mood and/or the sort of game I'm playing. I've also edited out some city names that I don't particularly like.
            Though I don't rename my civ, and rarely my cities (since about BTS' release actually), the fact that the option is there is good: to each his or her own.
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            • #7
              A good episode.
              Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
              The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
              The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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              • #8
                BTW One of the first threads I commented on poly was one in which we disscused making nuclear meltdowns an event.
                Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
                The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
                The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Heraclitus
                  kind of like a black Cleopatra.
                  Contraria sunt Complementa. -- Niels Bohr
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Heraclitus
                    One of the first threads I commented on poly was one in which we disscused making nuclear meltdowns an event.


                    A good episode.
                    On behalf of the team, thanks.

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                    • #11
                      Ah, the sacred city of Holy Socks; a place to heel all soles?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by MontyLaremane
                        Ah, the sacred city of Holy Socks; a place to heel all soles?
                        Wow! You have caught the vision of Holey Socks completely!

                        Thanks for listening!
                        In the beginning the Universe was created. This made a lot of people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move. - Douglas Adams

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by MontyLaremane
                          Ah, the sacred city of Holy Socks; a place to heel all soles?
                          Nice.

                          Originally posted by Cartimandua
                          Thanks for listening!
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                          • #14
                            Nice episode
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                            • #15
                              Online validation is horrible, hell even disc in draw with cIV is a pain in the butt when you are trying to roll through 10ish pbems and the 5 year old has been "organising' Daddy's discs.

                              Imran - livng in a country that literally has no copyright laws - console games seem to be just as easy to pirate as PC ones.

                              Warmongering is not too important!



                              A huge number of scientific advances have come through warfare. If anything it "hurts" you too much vs builder civs sitting around doing nothing.

                              Global warming seems to be overpowered IMO. I hardly ever actually use nukes, try and get the 3 Gorges Dam etc - and still get "random" global warming damage. Very frustrating.

                              I blame Al Gore and the Internet & Imrans liberal left wing agenda.



                              Great show
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