Announcement bug

[binTravkin]

Am I the only person for whom this link shows

http://apolyton.net/forums/announcement.php?s=&forumid=276

this page

(basically the case with all 'announcement' links I click on)

[binTravkin]

?

Oh, and btw, could you remove that 'Join' link besides 'Apolytoners Hall of Fame'?
Im just too tempted to click.

[binTravkin]

Also:

OFF-TOPIC POSTCOUNT RESTORED
(29 November 2006, 15:33 | About | -1 comments)

[DanQ]

Originally posted by binTravkin
Also[..]

That's because the thread that it references has been removed -- it could also mean that it has yet to exist at the time of the news database's last build, but that's not the case here.

Yes, it's not obvious from the "-1" what's going on practically speaking but logically it's sound (i.e. if the thread did exist, the number would be at least 0).

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Dan; Apolyton CS

[binTravkin]

I get that, Im a webdev myself.
The logical solution would be
if(count(comments) < 0){
do not show 'comments' link
}

[Solver]

Webdev... go and add more useful content to the Latvian web then !

[binTravkin]

Do you know draugiem.lv?

[Solver]

Undoubtedly the most useful .lv website .

[binTravkin]

It's useful for generating income, a LOT of it.

But from the other side - what do you consider useful, that could be pulled off on Latvian auditory?
Apolyton - clone? Nah, see digg clone for similar fate.
The latest useful thing is probably saites.lv, we were contemplating bout making such (ielinko.lv) ourselves, but the guys from m79.lv(owners of saites.lv) were faster.

[Solver]

Useful doesn't necessarily mean very popular, does it? If it did, only draugiem, delfi and tvnet would be ever considered useful.

Hell, anything! The main all-purpose news portals, like delfi or tvnet, are slow to update and do not provide news as they come. Where are good specialized news sites, like technology news? Where's a site full of programming information and tutorials? Or a game development website? At least there are now decent places to look in for Latvian history, but that's about it.

What was our digg clone though ?

[binTravkin]

Useful doesn't mean popular, but being useful attracts people.
Use of draugiem.lv as a means of communication cannot be underestimated, also its impact on the growth of internet usage.

Where are good specialized news sites, like technology news?

Well there are lot of techno-blogs, brobably the most popular being http://laacz.lv
Also there's php.lv forum.
Im afraid, there simply is not enough demand for a full-fledged tech site, but you might be right and that might change

Where's a site full of programming information and tutorials?

Most developers use foreign sites for info and tutos, simply because even if there were latvian ones, they would usually be of less quality or not wide enough to cover the spectrum of demand.
I myself use a lot of libraries, frameworks and other cool stuff made abroad and it's only logical I go to these abroad sites to check out technical details.

A single tech site by a dedicated team could attain some popularity though and I already know some people who would update it's content with relevant info, as they've been posting translated tech info at their blogs.

Or a game development website?

Im afraid this one has to be left for the future, as there's pretty little game development going on here.
I myself know of one company specialised on games (Ebbsoft), but they're mostly those little funky web-games only teenagers and kids play, and a few others which have been ocassionally developing games like zole e.g. (see draugiem zole by IT grupa).

Digg.lv is the clone, ran by certain infamous Arturs

[Solver]

Actually, I get very puzzled every time someone mentions that draugiem.lv is useful or good as a means of communication. I do not use the site myself, but given its popularity, I have an idea of how it works. And I do not see anything in there that email and/or instant messaging doesn't accomplish. I know that I can communicate very effectively through IM and email, both with people I know IRL and people I don't. It's certainly boosting the Net's popularity, I'll give em that.

Well there are lot of techno-blogs, brobably the most popular being http://laacz.lv
Also there's php.lv forum.
Im afraid, there simply is not enough demand for a full-fledged tech site, but you might be right and that might change

Yeah, I know laacz.lv, but that's indeed a blog. I think, though, that there would be demand. As you may know, Latvian young programmers actually seem to be quite talented, and there's also healthy interest about tech and programming. I think there is enough demand for a well-visited site - although not enough for a revenue-providing site.

Most developers use foreign sites for info and tutos, simply because even if there were latvian ones, they would usually be of less quality or not wide enough to cover the spectrum of demand.
I myself use a lot of libraries, frameworks and other cool stuff made abroad and it's only logical I go to these abroad sites to check out technical details.

Yeah, I also go to foreign sites for all my programming needs. Of course, we wouldn't ever have something like MSDN or experts-exchange.com here, but, at the very least, a site aimed at beginners would be viable. Easier to find and probably also easier for beginners to read the beginning tutorials in Latvian, not English. I've also written a few tech-articles for various sites, there's just not a centralized place.

Im afraid this one has to be left for the future, as there's pretty little game development going on here.
I myself know of one company specialised on games (Ebbsoft), but they're mostly those little funky web-games only teenagers and kids play, and a few others which have been ocassionally developing games like zole e.g. (see draugiem zole by IT grupa).

You know gamez.lv? There are constantly people in there who, among other stuff, are interested in game development. Of course, only a few ever managed to produce full playable games - such as Pahris, an unusual game, too. I dunno, maybe poor organization is some sort of a national property . Anyway, they also have http://dev.gamez.lv, a game-dev forum, which isn't a bad resource per se, because of the discussion, but it also suffers greatly from there being no Latvian-language tutorials aimed at least at novices. Which, I think, is certainly within the realms of possibility to create, as there's plenty of people with sufficient knowledge.

Of course, there'd be tons of people willing to do that stuff if you could convince anyone there's money involved .

[binTravkin]

Well, seeing how me and a team of friends/old colleagues all pretty good at least in webdevelopment, tired working under someones roof for years, are just looking for a possibility to set up our own venue, you could be dropping this idea in fertile soil..

[Solver]

Autortiesibas !

Mind you, I suck at web development, but not at idea generation & writing .

[binTravkin]

You spelled it, that's it!