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  • Update On Today's Maintainance

    The following occured the 7 hours

    - database maintainance and backup
    - 50k posts moved off main post sql table
    - a couple more PLUS benefits implemented

    currently deleting some spam from the off-topic archive

    we've still got a lot of stuff to do to face the server load issues....
    Co-Founder, Apolyton Civilization Site
    Co-Owner/Webmaster, Top40-Charts.com | CTO, Apogee Information Systems
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  • #2
    What benefits ?

    No plans as of yet to switch to a faster database engine? SQL probably isn't the perfect choice given the size of our database.
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    • #3
      see the plus news & support thread
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      • #4
        The "You could have an avatar this big!" but looks real good when avatars aren'y showing up.
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        • #5
          solver:
          faster than SQL?

          the queries may be suboptimal, but SQL surely is the fastest way for acquiring any dynamic data...
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          • #6
            While queries are used quite a lot of the time . Searches, edits, etc. I think that a more powerful database engine works better with the size such as our database.
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            • #7
              that's why we are reducing our database size
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              • #8
                i just presume interfering too much in to the queries would make an version upgrade of vBulletin too much work.

                i do however see some possible improvements. 37 queries is quite a lot of just 6 posts
                (i presume: 1 for thread, 1 for each post (was like that when i looked at an old vB version), 1 for each user (sig+avatar), 1 for each civgroup, a few for the the forum hierarchy (Apolyton CS Forums > Miscellaneous > Apolyton/Community > Update On Today's Maintainance), and the rest for statistical stuff and the forum styles)
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                • #9
                  Sounds murderously inefficient.
                  Is that why the reply page loads slower than dialup?

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                  • #10
                    mine were just assumptions.

                    markg, speaking of SQL: any chance of running some custom queries for more stats à la rasputin's monthly lists? of course they are reviewed by an admin and select statements will completely suffice
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                    • #11
                      37 queries is quite a lot of just 6 posts
                      the showthread and forumthread pages are fine. if you see the "page generated in" numbers at the bottom of pages you'll see that it's usually under 1 sec, sometimes less than 0.3 secs

                      the issue is with search related things: new posts, my threads, phrase searches, etc
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                      • #12
                        And most of that time is PHP (eg, 0.215 sec 85% PHP 15% MySQL with 33 queries)
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by MarkG
                          currently deleting some spam from the off-topic archive
                          All those +0's, wasted.
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                          • #14
                            My spams! My beautiful antique spams!
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                            • #15
                              My spams! My beautiful antique spams!

                              Even for internet-standarts spam from jan 2003 is not antique

                              SQL surely is the fastest way for acquiring any dynamic data...


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