College Football '10 - Conference switching chaos!!

[Ming]

Ming:

I rarely, if ever, agree with Drake on anything, at least in sports and politics. However, we tend to be very civil with each other. Dunno why you can't, whether it has something to do with your history or what. I'd say, just be the bigger man, and let bygones be bygones.

I would love to be civil with him... but he simply can't be civil with me or about half the other members of this forum. I rarely start anything... but frankly, when some ass starts throwing down crap, and doesn't ever get warned about it, I'm not just going to stand there and let him do it.

Again, anybody with half a brain can look through this thread and see that in EVERY case, he's the one that starts it.

[Imran Siddiqui]

So, why even bother then?

Why not just break off the MWC, WAC, MAC, C-USA, and Sun Belt into Division 1.5-A, and end the charade?

That's likely not a bad idea. The problem with college football today is that it's become so utterly and completely large. Maybe take the best of the MWC and WAC (into a 12 team conference) and make them a 6th BCS Conference and send the rest down - that would make 65ish teams in the top tier and that's far more managable.

[Ming]

So, why even bother then?

Why not just break off the MWC, WAC, MAC, C-USA, and Sun Belt into Division 1.5-A, and end the charade?

It is really a charade... but that's what happens when you let outsiders determine the participants in the biggest bowls. The NCAA thinks they are all equal, based on them being in the same division, but they will never be equal until the NCAA takes charge of its own sport. In no other sport or division does the NCAA allow this kind of stuff.

[Imran Siddiqui]

That's probably also partially the reason it's the best and most popular NCAA sport...

[Guynemer]

So your dream MWC/WAC hybrid would be...?

BSU, BYU, TCU, Utah would be obvious. Fresno and Air Force, certainly. Probably Nevada. We've hit seven; beyond this, pickings are slim. Maybe UNLV for its basketball history. Wyoming, for their ugly-ass uniforms? Hawai'i, 'cuz they're ****ing cool? Utah State, for their decent basketball program? That'd probably make the most sense.

[Imran Siddiqui]

It would be quite simple, actually, the MWC invites Boise State, Fresno State, and Nevada. Something which has been rumored in the past. It'd be the simplest way to go, IMO.

[Ming]

That's probably also partially the reason it's the best and most popular NCAA sport...

Probably more as in "in spite of it"
College Football is a great sport and enjoys much support. Even the BCS can't change that
Couldn't it be better if the NCAA itself hosted (and selected) a 4 team championship tournament at the end of the year. Sure, no matter how many teams you select, somebody would complain (just look at the March Madness as proof of that) but years like this (and most other years) prove that selecting just 2 teams isn't good enough.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Couldn't it be better if the NCAA itself hosted (and selected) a 4 team championship tournament at the end of the year.

No.

[Ming]

And why not... you could still use the current bowl system... and we are simply talking about just two teams playing "an extra" game. The BCS has proved year after year that it doesn't really work. The BCS is rigged against a non BCS conference team having a chance at the title. The BCS is all about the BCS conferences. That's contrary to the NCAA, which see's them all as Division IA schools. A four team playoff would increase the odds of ANY team in Division IA having a shot at the title. And it would not make (as some suggest) for a playoff system where undeserving teams get in. Let the champion prove it on the field, instead of letting a bunch of undefeated teams sit on the side lines. Sure, there are 5 undefeated teams this year, but that hasn't happened in a long time.

Again, it's time for the NCAA to take back control of their own game.

[Imran Siddiqui]

I want to go back to traditional bowl games with ONE BCS game, a #1 vs. #2 - what the BCS was really created to do (even that isn't all that important to me, though).

And as I've indicated like 2 posts above yours, I'd rather see the non-BCS conferences (except for a bigger MWC) be sent down.

[DanS]

And if you would take your head out of your ass, you would see that in EVERY case, he's the one that starts it.

God, I thought you had kids.

[Tuberski]

That's probably also partially the reason it's the best and most popular NCAA sport...

Not a chance, it was the most popular NCAA sport before the BCS.

But there is also a reason that March Madness is wildly popular.

It crowns a champion and it gives the little guys a shot at the big boys.

ACK!

[SlowwHand]

He could ground his kids.

[Ming]

And why should they be sent down? Just because they aren't members of the Club? A Club not run by the NCAA.
It's obvious that these non BCS conferences can produce exceptional teams. And we will never really know just how good they are because the BCS (Big Conferences) have a monopoly and have rigged the deck against them.

While you may be a big supporter of one of the big conferences, there are many supporters of the "other" conferences that don't think they should be treated like second class citizens.

The BCS shouldn't be able to dictate things to the NCAA. You are suggesting that the Big Conferences have the power to diss the conferences not in their little club, or even the ability to make sure they can never join their little club. It should be up to the NCAA, and the NCAA alone to make those kind of decisions.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Why are I-AA teams "down". Because they aren't members of the club. Next.