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  • Snoop -- I'm ragging on Jag for his attempt to influence draft picks. Not that your statistical analysis is unappreciated. Your last paragraph makes my point nicely (roughly, the relative value of a reliable top-5 WR vs uncertainty of the #20 RB).

    Jag -- We read the league differently. I see more committees, and feel the number of RB injuries was not as over-the-top high as you suggest. RBs get hurt every year. It's a crapshoot.

    with injuries to Jackson, both Johnsons, Alexander, Portis, McAllister, and many other big-name running backs.
    Portis played in all 16 games and had 370 touches. And who are all these "many other big-name" injured RBs you so blithely refer to?

    Hey, I understand you wanting to manipulate the draft. But outright lies are a bit unseemly.
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    RIP lest we forget... SG (2) and LaFayette -- Civ2 Succession Games Brothers-in-Arms

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    • Oops, wrong year on Portis.

      "Many other" refers to guys like Ronnie Brown, who I forgot to list the first time, Cadillac Williams, and even Travis Henry, who was a first round pick in many leagues after a good 2006 campaign. Or how about Brandon Jacobs and Ahman Green? There was a HUGE number of running back injuries in 2007, and the comparison to the 2006 stats bears that out.
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      • Originally posted by SlowwHand
        Did something a little out of the norm for me. I think McFadden will be this year's Adrian Peterson.
        Actually Sloww I was hoping you wouldn't take him, but I am happy with Ronnie Brown anyways.

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        • Guys like Ahman Green, Cadillac Williams and Shawn Alexander were coming off of injuries in 2006 in the first place. Yet you seem to be advocating: "Draft these guys early, they're all coming out of rehab."
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          • The point is, JR, it doesn't matter in the slightest... total scoring by WR and relative point rank is irrelevant in the discussion for where they should be drafted, as compared to positional separation. Irrelevant.
            <Reverend> IRC is just multiplayer notepad.
            I like your SNOOPY POSTER! - While you Wait quote.

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            • I just want to give Jaguar some crap.

              Stop trying to distract me.
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              RIP lest we forget... SG (2) and LaFayette -- Civ2 Succession Games Brothers-in-Arms

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              • 1.01 Jaguar - LaDainian Tomlinson - RB - SD
                1.02 Kidicious - Steven Jackson - RB - StL
                1.03 -Jrabbit - Brian Westbrook - RB - PHI
                1.04 Berzerker - Adrian Peterson RB - MIN
                1.05 Spaced Cowboy - Joseph Addai - RB - IND
                1.06 Snoopy369 - Tom Brady - QB - NE
                1.07 Guynemer - Frank Gore - RB - SF
                1.08 SlowwHand - Marion Barber - RB - Dal
                1.09 Deity Dude - Drew Brees - QB - NO
                1.10 Koyaanisqatsi - Randy Moss - WR - NE
                1.11 Tuberski - Peyton Manning - QB - IND
                1.12 Stuie - Tony Romo - QB - DAL

                2.12 Stuie - Clinton Portis - RB - WAS
                2.11 Tuberski - Marshawn Lynch - RB - BUF
                2.10 Koyaanisqatsi - Maurice Jones-Drew - RB - JAC
                2.09 Deity Dude - Willis McGahee - RB - BAL
                2.08 SlowwHand - Ryan Grant - RB - GB
                2.07 Guynemer - Ben Roethlisberger - QB - PIT
                2.06 Snoopy369 - Larry Johnson - RB - KC
                2.05 Spaced Cowboy - Michael Turner - RB - ATL
                2.04 Berzerker - Terrell Owens WR - DAL
                2.03 -Jrabbit - Reggie Wayne - WR - IND
                2.02 Kidicious - Jamal Lewis - RB - Cle
                2.01 Jaguar - Laurence Maroney - RB - NE

                3.01 Jaguar - Earnest Graham - RB - TB
                3.02 Kidicious - Andre Johnson - WR - HOU
                3.03 -Jrabbit - Braylon Edwards - WR - CLE
                3.04 Berzerker - TJ Houshmandzadeh - WR - CIN
                3.05 Spaced Cowboy - Reggie Bush - RB - NO
                3.06 Snoopy369 - Marques Colston - WR - NO
                3.07 Guynemer - Willie Parker - RB - Pit
                3.08 SlowwHand - Darren McFadden - RB - Oak
                3.09 Deity Dude - Ronnie Brown - RB - Miami
                3.10 Koyaanisqatsi - Carson Palmer - QB - Cin
                3.11 Tuberski - Torry Holt - WR - StL
                3.12 Stuie -

                ACK!
                Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust!

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                • 1.01 Jaguar - LaDainian Tomlinson - RB - SD
                  1.02 Kidicious - Steven Jackson - RB - StL
                  1.03 -Jrabbit - Brian Westbrook - RB - PHI
                  1.04 Berzerker - Adrian Peterson RB - MIN
                  1.05 Spaced Cowboy - Joseph Addai - RB - IND
                  1.06 Snoopy369 - Tom Brady - QB - NE
                  1.07 Guynemer - Frank Gore - RB - SF
                  1.08 SlowwHand - Marion Barber - RB - Dal
                  1.09 Deity Dude - Drew Brees - QB - NO
                  1.10 Koyaanisqatsi - Randy Moss - WR - NE
                  1.11 Tuberski - Peyton Manning - QB - IND
                  1.12 Stuie - Tony Romo - QB - DAL

                  2.12 Stuie - Clinton Portis - RB - WAS
                  2.11 Tuberski - Marshawn Lynch - RB - BUF
                  2.10 Koyaanisqatsi - Maurice Jones-Drew - RB - JAC
                  2.09 Deity Dude - Willis McGahee - RB - BAL
                  2.08 SlowwHand - Ryan Grant - RB - GB
                  2.07 Guynemer - Ben Roethlisberger - QB - PIT
                  2.06 Snoopy369 - Larry Johnson - RB - KC
                  2.05 Spaced Cowboy - Michael Turner - RB - ATL
                  2.04 Berzerker - Terrell Owens WR - DAL
                  2.03 -Jrabbit - Reggie Wayne - WR - IND
                  2.02 Kidicious - Jamal Lewis - RB - Cle
                  2.01 Jaguar - Laurence Maroney - RB - NE

                  3.01 Jaguar - Earnest Graham - RB - TB
                  3.02 Kidicious - Andre Johnson - WR - HOU
                  3.03 -Jrabbit - Braylon Edwards - WR - CLE
                  3.04 Berzerker - TJ Houshmandzadeh - WR - CIN
                  3.05 Spaced Cowboy - Reggie Bush - RB - NO
                  3.06 Snoopy369 - Marques Colston - WR - NO
                  3.07 Guynemer - Willie Parker - RB - Pit
                  3.08 SlowwHand - Darren McFadden - RB - Oak
                  3.09 Deity Dude - Ronnie Brown - RB - Miami
                  3.10 Koyaanisqatsi - Carson Palmer - QB - Cin
                  3.11 Tuberski - Torry Holt - WR - StL
                  3.12 Stuie - Larry Fitzgerald - WR - ARI

                  4.12 Stuie - Chad Johnson - WR - CIN
                  4.11 Tuberski -
                  "Stuie has the right idea" - Japher
                  "I trust Stuie and all involved." - SlowwHand
                  "Stuie is right...." - Guynemer

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                  • 1.01 Jaguar - LaDainian Tomlinson - RB - SD
                    1.02 Kidicious - Steven Jackson - RB - StL
                    1.03 -Jrabbit - Brian Westbrook - RB - PHI
                    1.04 Berzerker - Adrian Peterson RB - MIN
                    1.05 Spaced Cowboy - Joseph Addai - RB - IND
                    1.06 Snoopy369 - Tom Brady - QB - NE
                    1.07 Guynemer - Frank Gore - RB - SF
                    1.08 SlowwHand - Marion Barber - RB - Dal
                    1.09 Deity Dude - Drew Brees - QB - NO
                    1.10 Koyaanisqatsi - Randy Moss - WR - NE
                    1.11 Tuberski - Peyton Manning - QB - IND
                    1.12 Stuie - Tony Romo - QB - DAL

                    2.12 Stuie - Clinton Portis - RB - WAS
                    2.11 Tuberski - Marshawn Lynch - RB - BUF
                    2.10 Koyaanisqatsi - Maurice Jones-Drew - RB - JAC
                    2.09 Deity Dude - Willis McGahee - RB - BAL
                    2.08 SlowwHand - Ryan Grant - RB - GB
                    2.07 Guynemer - Ben Roethlisberger - QB - PIT
                    2.06 Snoopy369 - Larry Johnson - RB - KC
                    2.05 Spaced Cowboy - Michael Turner - RB - ATL
                    2.04 Berzerker - Terrell Owens WR - DAL
                    2.03 -Jrabbit - Reggie Wayne - WR - IND
                    2.02 Kidicious - Jamal Lewis - RB - Cle
                    2.01 Jaguar - Laurence Maroney - RB - NE

                    3.01 Jaguar - Earnest Graham - RB - TB
                    3.02 Kidicious - Andre Johnson - WR - HOU
                    3.03 -Jrabbit - Braylon Edwards - WR - CLE
                    3.04 Berzerker - TJ Houshmandzadeh - WR - CIN
                    3.05 Spaced Cowboy - Reggie Bush - RB - NO
                    3.06 Snoopy369 - Marques Colston - WR - NO
                    3.07 Guynemer - Willie Parker - RB - Pit
                    3.08 SlowwHand - Darren McFadden - RB - Oak
                    3.09 Deity Dude - Ronnie Brown - RB - Miami
                    3.10 Koyaanisqatsi - Carson Palmer - QB - Cin
                    3.11 Tuberski - Torry Holt - WR - StL
                    3.12 Stuie - Larry Fitzgerald - WR - ARI

                    4.12 Stuie - Chad Johnson - WR - CIN
                    4.11 Tuberski - Steve Smith - WR - CAR
                    4.10 Koyaanisqatsi
                    4.09 Deity Dude
                    4.08 SlowwHand
                    4.07 Guynemer
                    4.06 Snoopy369
                    4.05 Spaced Cowboy
                    4.04 Berzerker
                    4.03 -Jrabbit
                    4.02 Kidicious
                    4.01 Jaguar

                    Can't believe I missed Fitzgerald.

                    Thanks for the tip Jrabbit, I was half asleep when I made the pick.

                    ACK!
                    Last edited by Tuberski; July 31, 2008, 12:01.
                    Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust!

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                    • Michael Turner was taken by Spaced at 2.05

                      Try again.
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                      RIP lest we forget... SG (2) and LaFayette -- Civ2 Succession Games Brothers-in-Arms

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                      • Updated my pick PMed Koy.

                        ACK!
                        Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust!

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                        • I've always wondered why you guys do the draft this way instead of using the on-line tools?

                          It gets quite tedious figuring out who is left when we get into the teens on picks.

                          With the on-line tools, it tells you who is left and even ranks them for you.

                          It is nice to see the draft like this, more interactivity, but we could have used the tools and posted the ongoing resuslts here anyway. Just me 2 cents worth.
                          We're sorry, the voices in my head are not available at this time. Please try back again soon.

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                          • I keep of them under Edit Draft at Draft Central of Yahoo. I put the chosen players on the left, mine on the right.
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                            • 1.01 Jaguar - LaDainian Tomlinson - RB - SD
                              1.02 Kidicious - Steven Jackson - RB - StL
                              1.03 -Jrabbit - Brian Westbrook - RB - PHI
                              1.04 Berzerker - Adrian Peterson RB - MIN
                              1.05 Spaced Cowboy - Joseph Addai - RB - IND
                              1.06 Snoopy369 - Tom Brady - QB - NE
                              1.07 Guynemer - Frank Gore - RB - SF
                              1.08 SlowwHand - Marion Barber - RB - Dal
                              1.09 Deity Dude - Drew Brees - QB - NO
                              1.10 Koyaanisqatsi - Randy Moss - WR - NE
                              1.11 Tuberski - Peyton Manning - QB - IND
                              1.12 Stuie - Tony Romo - QB - DAL

                              2.12 Stuie - Clinton Portis - RB - WAS
                              2.11 Tuberski - Marshawn Lynch - RB - BUF
                              2.10 Koyaanisqatsi - Maurice Jones-Drew - RB - JAC
                              2.09 Deity Dude - Willis McGahee - RB - BAL
                              2.08 SlowwHand - Ryan Grant - RB - GB
                              2.07 Guynemer - Ben Roethlisberger - QB - PIT
                              2.06 Snoopy369 - Larry Johnson - RB - KC
                              2.05 Spaced Cowboy - Michael Turner - RB - ATL
                              2.04 Berzerker - Terrell Owens WR - DAL
                              2.03 -Jrabbit - Reggie Wayne - WR - IND
                              2.02 Kidicious - Jamal Lewis - RB - Cle
                              2.01 Jaguar - Laurence Maroney - RB - NE

                              3.01 Jaguar - Earnest Graham - RB - TB
                              3.02 Kidicious - Andre Johnson - WR - HOU
                              3.03 -Jrabbit - Braylon Edwards - WR - CLE
                              3.04 Berzerker - TJ Houshmandzadeh - WR - CIN
                              3.05 Spaced Cowboy - Reggie Bush - RB - NO
                              3.06 Snoopy369 - Marques Colston - WR - NO
                              3.07 Guynemer - Willie Parker - RB - Pit
                              3.08 SlowwHand - Darren McFadden - RB - Oak
                              3.09 Deity Dude - Ronnie Brown - RB - Miami
                              3.10 Koyaanisqatsi - Carson Palmer - QB - Cin
                              3.11 Tuberski - Torry Holt - WR - StL
                              3.12 Stuie - Larry Fitzgerald - WR - ARI

                              4.12 Stuie - Chad Johnson - WR - CIN
                              4.11 Tuberski - Steve Smith - WR - CAR
                              4.10 Koyaanisqatsi - Plaxico Burress - WR - NYG
                              4.09 Deity Dude
                              4.08 SlowwHand
                              4.07 Guynemer
                              4.06 Snoopy369
                              4.05 Spaced Cowboy
                              4.04 Berzerker
                              4.03 -Jrabbit
                              4.02 Kidicious
                              4.01 Jaguar
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                              • I have Sloww's list for this round.
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