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  • Possibly because he already has 4 OF.
    Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
    "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
    He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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    • Originally posted by SlowwHand
      Possibly because he already has 4 OF.
      Sloww wins that round.

      Anyway, I can still grab Geoff Jenkins.
      "Stuie has the right idea" - Japher
      "I trust Stuie and all involved." - SlowwHand
      "Stuie is right...." - Guynemer

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      • Yeah, but he's a Phillie... so what does it matter?

        Besides Victorino's average draft slot is far higher than the 15th round (according to Yahoo it is somewhere in the 8th or 9th round, IIRC).
        “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
        - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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        • Derrek Lee is number 43 at Yahoo. Why didn't you take him? Why not just BAPAY the whole draft and be done with it. No waiting that way.
          Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
          "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
          He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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          • Cause I already took Carlos Pena... but I assure you if Derrick Lee was available in the 15th round, I would have jumped on him .
            “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
            - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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            • Yeah, victorino is a great 15th rounder. If i'd remembered he were still around I would have grabbed him in a heartbeat...
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              I like your SNOOPY POSTER! - While you Wait quote.

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              • 1) EPW
                2) EmpFab
                3) Snoopy
                4) Jdd
                5) Ramsey
                6) SlowwHand
                7) Guynemer
                8) Fistandantilus
                9) Ninot
                10) Stuie
                11) Imran
                12) Berzerker

                1-1 Alex Rodriguez 3B NYY
                1-2 Johan Santana SP NYM
                1-3 David Wright 3B NYM
                1-4 Hanley Ramirez SS FLA
                1-5 Albert Pujols 1B STL
                1-6 Matt Holliday OF COL
                1-7 Miguel Cabrera 3B DET
                1-8 Jose Reyes SS NYM
                1-9 David Ortiz 1B BOS
                1-10 Jimmy Rollins SS PHI
                1-11 Chase Utley 2B PHI
                1-12 Ryan Braun 3B MIL

                2-12 Jake Peavy SP SD
                2-11 Alfonso Soriano OF CHC
                2-10 Ryan Howard 1B PHI
                2-9 Vladimir Guerrero OF LAA
                2-8 Prince Fielder 1B MIL
                2-7 Carlos Beltran OF NYM
                2-6 Brandon Phillips 2B CIN
                2-5 Carlos Lee OF HOU
                2-4 Grady Sizemore OF CLE
                2-3 Eric Bedard SP SEA
                2-2 Ichiro Suzuki OF SEA
                2-1 Magglio Ordonez OF DET

                3-1 Brandon Webb SP ARI
                3-2 Carl Crawford OF TB
                3-3 Victor Martinez C CLE
                3-4 Adam Dunn OF CIN
                3-5 Josh Beckett SP BOS
                3-6 Mark Teixeira 1B ATL
                3-7 Curtis Granderson OF DET
                3-8 Aramis Ramirez 3B CHC
                3-9 Chipper Jones 3B ATL
                3-10 Bobby Abreu OF NYY
                3-11 Troy Tulowitzki SS COL
                3-12 BJ Upton 2B/OF TB

                4-12 Lance Berkman 1B/OF HOU
                4-11 Carlos Pena 1B TB
                4-10 Mike Lowell 3B BOS
                4-9 C.C.Sabathia SP CLE
                4-8 Jonathan Papelbon RP BOS
                4-7 Dan Haren SP ARI
                4-6 Alex Rios OF TOR
                4-5 J.J Putz RP SEA
                4-4 Robinson Cano 2B NYY
                4-3 Cole Hamels SP PHI
                4-2 Justin Morneau 1B MIN
                4-1 Todd Helton 1B COL

                5-1 Heath Bell RP SD
                5-2 Derek Jeter SS NYY
                5-3 Nick Markakis OF BAL
                5-4 Garrett Atkins 3B COL
                5-5 Eric Byrnes OF ARI
                5-6 John Lackey SP LAA
                5-7 Russell Martin C LAD
                5-8 Manny Ramirez OF BOS
                5-9 Michael Young SS TEX
                5-10 Brian Roberts 2B BAL
                5-11 Chone Figgins 3B ANH
                5-12 Carlos Guillen 1B/SS DET

                6-12 John Smoltz SP ATL
                6-11 Justin Verlander SP DET
                6-10 Aaron Harang SP CIN
                6-9 Joe Mauer C MIN
                6-8 Scott Kazmir SP TB
                6-7 Derrek Lee 1B CHC
                6-6 Torii Hunter OF LAA
                6-5 Hunter Pence OF HOU
                6-4 Chris Young SP SD
                6-3 Corey Hart OF MIL
                6-2 Ian Kinsler 2B TEX
                6-1 Jorge Posada C NYY

                7-1 Dustin Pedrioa 2B BOS
                7-2 Francisco Rodriguez RP LAA
                7-3 Miguel Tejeda SS HOU
                7-4 Felix Hernandez SP SEA
                7-5 Roy Oswalt SP HOU
                7-6 Rafael Furcal SS LAD
                7-7 Placido Polanco 2B DET
                7-8 Brad Hawpe OF COL
                7-9 Rickie Weeks 2B MIL
                7-10 Brett Myers SP PHI
                7-11 Jeff Francoeur OF ATL
                7-12 Gary Sheffield OF DET

                8-12 Francisco Liriano SP MIN
                8-11 Tim Lincecum SP SFG
                8-10 Hideki Matsui OF NYY
                8-9 Daisuke Matsuzaka SP BOS
                8-8 Joe Nathan RP MIN
                8-7 Takashi Saito RP LAD
                8-6 Javier Vazquez SP CWS
                8-5 Carlos Zambrano SP CHC
                8-4 Bobby Jenks RP CHW
                8-3 Mariano Rivera RP NYY
                8-2 Roy Halladay SP TOR
                8-1 Pat Burrell OF PHI

                9-1 Fausto Carmona SP CLE
                9-2 Brian McCann C ATL
                9-3 James Shields SP TB
                9-4 Travis Hafner 1B CLE
                9-5 Dan Uggla 2B FLA
                9-6 Jose Valverde RP HOU
                9-7 Rich Hill SP CHC
                9-8 Jason Bay OF PIT
                9-9 Joba Chamberlain RP NYY
                9-10 Jose Guillen OF KC
                9-11 Nick Swisher OF/1B CHW
                9-12 Francisco Cordero RP CIN

                10-12 Geovany Soto C CHI
                10-11 Billy Wagner RP NYM
                10-10 Trevor Hoffman RP SD
                10-9 Jacoby Ellsbury OF BOS
                10-8 A.J. Burnett SP TOR
                10-7 Rafael Betancourt RP CLE
                10-6 Huston Street RP OAK
                10-5 Orlando Cabrera SS CWS
                10-4 Joakim Soria RP KC
                10-3 Chris Young OF ARI
                10-2 Ryan Zimmerman 3B WAS
                10-1 Jhonny Peralta SS CLE

                11-1 Carlos Marmol RP CHI
                11-2 Ben Sheets SP MIL
                11-3 Kelly Johnson 2B ATL
                11-4 Matt Cain SP SF
                11-5 John Maine SP NYM
                11-6 Adri�n B�ltre 3B SEA
                11-7 Kelvim Escobar SP LAA
                11-8 Ian Snell SP PIT
                11-9 Tim Hudson SP ATL
                11-10 Brad Penny SP LAD
                11-11 Pedro Martinez SP NYM
                11-12 Rafael Soriano RP ATL

                12-12 Randy Johnson SP ARI
                12-11 Adrian Gonzalez 1B SD
                12-10 Aaron Rowand OF SF
                12-9 Todd Jones RP DET
                12-8 Andruw Jones OF LAD
                12-7 Ken Griffey, Jr. OF CIN
                12-6 Ted Lilly SP CHC
                12-5 Tony Pena RP Ari
                12-4 Chad Billingsley SP LAD
                12-3 Manny Corpas RP COL
                12-2 Vernon Wells OF TOR
                12-1 Joe Blanton SP OAK

                13-1 B.J. Ryan RP TOR
                13-2 Hideki Okajima RP BOS
                13-3 Jermaine Dye OF CWS
                13-4 Chad Cordero RP Nationals
                13-5 Matt Capps RP Pit
                13-6 Jason Isringhausen RP StL
                13-7 Jonathan Broxton RP LAD
                13-8 Jon Rauch RP WAS
                13-9 Jeremy Hermida OF FLA
                13-10 Carlos Ruiz C PHI
                13-11 Clay Buchholz SP BOS
                13-12 Jim Thome 1B CHW

                14-12 Matt Kemp OF LAD
                14-11 Jarrod Saltalamacchia C TEX
                14-10 Brad Lidge RP PHI
                14-9 Jeff Francis SP COL
                14-8 Mike Napoli C LAA
                14-7 Jeremy Bonderman SP DET
                14-6 Chien-Ming Wang SP NYY
                14-5 J. R. Towles C Hou
                14-4 Michael Cuddyer OF MIN
                14-3 Scot Shields RP ARI
                14-2 Oliver Perez SP NYM
                14-1 Rafael Perez RP CLE

                15-1 Daric Barton 1B OAK
                15-2 Khalil Greene SS SD
                15-3 Paul Konerko 1B CWS
                15-4 James Loney 1B LAD
                15-5 Willy Taveras OF COL
                15-6 Kenji Johjima C SEA
                15-7 Edgar Renteria SS DET
                15-8 Yovani Gallardo SP MIL
                15-9 Nick Johnson 1B WAS
                15-10 Derek Lowe SP LAD
                15-11 Shane Victorino OF PHI
                15-12 Rich Harden SP OAK

                16-12 Josh Hamilton OF TEX
                16-11

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                • 1) EPW
                  2) EmpFab
                  3) Snoopy
                  4) Jdd
                  5) Ramsey
                  6) SlowwHand
                  7) Guynemer
                  8) Fistandantilus
                  9) Ninot
                  10) Stuie
                  11) Imran
                  12) Berzerker

                  1-1 Alex Rodriguez 3B NYY
                  1-2 Johan Santana SP NYM
                  1-3 David Wright 3B NYM
                  1-4 Hanley Ramirez SS FLA
                  1-5 Albert Pujols 1B STL
                  1-6 Matt Holliday OF COL
                  1-7 Miguel Cabrera 3B DET
                  1-8 Jose Reyes SS NYM
                  1-9 David Ortiz 1B BOS
                  1-10 Jimmy Rollins SS PHI
                  1-11 Chase Utley 2B PHI
                  1-12 Ryan Braun 3B MIL

                  2-12 Jake Peavy SP SD
                  2-11 Alfonso Soriano OF CHC
                  2-10 Ryan Howard 1B PHI
                  2-9 Vladimir Guerrero OF LAA
                  2-8 Prince Fielder 1B MIL
                  2-7 Carlos Beltran OF NYM
                  2-6 Brandon Phillips 2B CIN
                  2-5 Carlos Lee OF HOU
                  2-4 Grady Sizemore OF CLE
                  2-3 Eric Bedard SP SEA
                  2-2 Ichiro Suzuki OF SEA
                  2-1 Magglio Ordonez OF DET

                  3-1 Brandon Webb SP ARI
                  3-2 Carl Crawford OF TB
                  3-3 Victor Martinez C CLE
                  3-4 Adam Dunn OF CIN
                  3-5 Josh Beckett SP BOS
                  3-6 Mark Teixeira 1B ATL
                  3-7 Curtis Granderson OF DET
                  3-8 Aramis Ramirez 3B CHC
                  3-9 Chipper Jones 3B ATL
                  3-10 Bobby Abreu OF NYY
                  3-11 Troy Tulowitzki SS COL
                  3-12 BJ Upton 2B/OF TB

                  4-12 Lance Berkman 1B/OF HOU
                  4-11 Carlos Pena 1B TB
                  4-10 Mike Lowell 3B BOS
                  4-9 C.C.Sabathia SP CLE
                  4-8 Jonathan Papelbon RP BOS
                  4-7 Dan Haren SP ARI
                  4-6 Alex Rios OF TOR
                  4-5 J.J Putz RP SEA
                  4-4 Robinson Cano 2B NYY
                  4-3 Cole Hamels SP PHI
                  4-2 Justin Morneau 1B MIN
                  4-1 Todd Helton 1B COL

                  5-1 Heath Bell RP SD
                  5-2 Derek Jeter SS NYY
                  5-3 Nick Markakis OF BAL
                  5-4 Garrett Atkins 3B COL
                  5-5 Eric Byrnes OF ARI
                  5-6 John Lackey SP LAA
                  5-7 Russell Martin C LAD
                  5-8 Manny Ramirez OF BOS
                  5-9 Michael Young SS TEX
                  5-10 Brian Roberts 2B BAL
                  5-11 Chone Figgins 3B ANH
                  5-12 Carlos Guillen 1B/SS DET

                  6-12 John Smoltz SP ATL
                  6-11 Justin Verlander SP DET
                  6-10 Aaron Harang SP CIN
                  6-9 Joe Mauer C MIN
                  6-8 Scott Kazmir SP TB
                  6-7 Derrek Lee 1B CHC
                  6-6 Torii Hunter OF LAA
                  6-5 Hunter Pence OF HOU
                  6-4 Chris Young SP SD
                  6-3 Corey Hart OF MIL
                  6-2 Ian Kinsler 2B TEX
                  6-1 Jorge Posada C NYY

                  7-1 Dustin Pedrioa 2B BOS
                  7-2 Francisco Rodriguez RP LAA
                  7-3 Miguel Tejeda SS HOU
                  7-4 Felix Hernandez SP SEA
                  7-5 Roy Oswalt SP HOU
                  7-6 Rafael Furcal SS LAD
                  7-7 Placido Polanco 2B DET
                  7-8 Brad Hawpe OF COL
                  7-9 Rickie Weeks 2B MIL
                  7-10 Brett Myers SP PHI
                  7-11 Jeff Francoeur OF ATL
                  7-12 Gary Sheffield OF DET

                  8-12 Francisco Liriano SP MIN
                  8-11 Tim Lincecum SP SFG
                  8-10 Hideki Matsui OF NYY
                  8-9 Daisuke Matsuzaka SP BOS
                  8-8 Joe Nathan RP MIN
                  8-7 Takashi Saito RP LAD
                  8-6 Javier Vazquez SP CWS
                  8-5 Carlos Zambrano SP CHC
                  8-4 Bobby Jenks RP CHW
                  8-3 Mariano Rivera RP NYY
                  8-2 Roy Halladay SP TOR
                  8-1 Pat Burrell OF PHI

                  9-1 Fausto Carmona SP CLE
                  9-2 Brian McCann C ATL
                  9-3 James Shields SP TB
                  9-4 Travis Hafner 1B CLE
                  9-5 Dan Uggla 2B FLA
                  9-6 Jose Valverde RP HOU
                  9-7 Rich Hill SP CHC
                  9-8 Jason Bay OF PIT
                  9-9 Joba Chamberlain RP NYY
                  9-10 Jose Guillen OF KC
                  9-11 Nick Swisher OF/1B CHW
                  9-12 Francisco Cordero RP CIN

                  10-12 Geovany Soto C CHI
                  10-11 Billy Wagner RP NYM
                  10-10 Trevor Hoffman RP SD
                  10-9 Jacoby Ellsbury OF BOS
                  10-8 A.J. Burnett SP TOR
                  10-7 Rafael Betancourt RP CLE
                  10-6 Huston Street RP OAK
                  10-5 Orlando Cabrera SS CWS
                  10-4 Joakim Soria RP KC
                  10-3 Chris Young OF ARI
                  10-2 Ryan Zimmerman 3B WAS
                  10-1 Jhonny Peralta SS CLE

                  11-1 Carlos Marmol RP CHI
                  11-2 Ben Sheets SP MIL
                  11-3 Kelly Johnson 2B ATL
                  11-4 Matt Cain SP SF
                  11-5 John Maine SP NYM
                  11-6 Adri�n B�ltre 3B SEA
                  11-7 Kelvim Escobar SP LAA
                  11-8 Ian Snell SP PIT
                  11-9 Tim Hudson SP ATL
                  11-10 Brad Penny SP LAD
                  11-11 Pedro Martinez SP NYM
                  11-12 Rafael Soriano RP ATL

                  12-12 Randy Johnson SP ARI
                  12-11 Adrian Gonzalez 1B SD
                  12-10 Aaron Rowand OF SF
                  12-9 Todd Jones RP DET
                  12-8 Andruw Jones OF LAD
                  12-7 Ken Griffey, Jr. OF CIN
                  12-6 Ted Lilly SP CHC
                  12-5 Tony Pena RP Ari
                  12-4 Chad Billingsley SP LAD
                  12-3 Manny Corpas RP COL
                  12-2 Vernon Wells OF TOR
                  12-1 Joe Blanton SP OAK

                  13-1 B.J. Ryan RP TOR
                  13-2 Hideki Okajima RP BOS
                  13-3 Jermaine Dye OF CWS
                  13-4 Chad Cordero RP Nationals
                  13-5 Matt Capps RP Pit
                  13-6 Jason Isringhausen RP StL
                  13-7 Jonathan Broxton RP LAD
                  13-8 Jon Rauch RP WAS
                  13-9 Jeremy Hermida OF FLA
                  13-10 Carlos Ruiz C PHI
                  13-11 Clay Buchholz SP BOS
                  13-12 Jim Thome 1B CHW

                  14-12 Matt Kemp OF LAD
                  14-11 Jarrod Saltalamacchia C TEX
                  14-10 Brad Lidge RP PHI
                  14-9 Jeff Francis SP COL
                  14-8 Mike Napoli C LAA
                  14-7 Jeremy Bonderman SP DET
                  14-6 Chien-Ming Wang SP NYY
                  14-5 J. R. Towles C Hou
                  14-4 Michael Cuddyer OF MIN
                  14-3 Scot Shields RP ARI
                  14-2 Oliver Perez SP NYM
                  14-1 Rafael Perez RP CLE

                  15-1 Daric Barton 1B OAK
                  15-2 Khalil Greene SS SD
                  15-3 Paul Konerko 1B CWS
                  15-4 James Loney 1B LAD
                  15-5 Willy Taveras OF COL
                  15-6 Kenji Johjima C SEA
                  15-7 Edgar Renteria SS DET
                  15-8 Yovani Gallardo SP MIL
                  15-9 Nick Johnson 1B WAS
                  15-10 Derek Lowe SP LAD
                  15-11 Shane Victorino OF PHI
                  15-12 Rich Harden SP OAK

                  16-12 Josh Hamilton OF TEX
                  16-11 Alex Gordon 3B KC
                  “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                  - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

                  Comment


                  • Love the later rounds in large drafts.

                    1) EPW
                    2) EmpFab
                    3) Snoopy
                    4) Jdd
                    5) Ramsey
                    6) SlowwHand
                    7) Guynemer
                    8) Fistandantilus
                    9) Ninot
                    10) Stuie
                    11) Imran
                    12) Berzerker

                    1-1 Alex Rodriguez 3B NYY
                    1-2 Johan Santana SP NYM
                    1-3 David Wright 3B NYM
                    1-4 Hanley Ramirez SS FLA
                    1-5 Albert Pujols 1B STL
                    1-6 Matt Holliday OF COL
                    1-7 Miguel Cabrera 3B DET
                    1-8 Jose Reyes SS NYM
                    1-9 David Ortiz 1B BOS
                    1-10 Jimmy Rollins SS PHI
                    1-11 Chase Utley 2B PHI
                    1-12 Ryan Braun 3B MIL

                    2-12 Jake Peavy SP SD
                    2-11 Alfonso Soriano OF CHC
                    2-10 Ryan Howard 1B PHI
                    2-9 Vladimir Guerrero OF LAA
                    2-8 Prince Fielder 1B MIL
                    2-7 Carlos Beltran OF NYM
                    2-6 Brandon Phillips 2B CIN
                    2-5 Carlos Lee OF HOU
                    2-4 Grady Sizemore OF CLE
                    2-3 Eric Bedard SP SEA
                    2-2 Ichiro Suzuki OF SEA
                    2-1 Magglio Ordonez OF DET

                    3-1 Brandon Webb SP ARI
                    3-2 Carl Crawford OF TB
                    3-3 Victor Martinez C CLE
                    3-4 Adam Dunn OF CIN
                    3-5 Josh Beckett SP BOS
                    3-6 Mark Teixeira 1B ATL
                    3-7 Curtis Granderson OF DET
                    3-8 Aramis Ramirez 3B CHC
                    3-9 Chipper Jones 3B ATL
                    3-10 Bobby Abreu OF NYY
                    3-11 Troy Tulowitzki SS COL
                    3-12 BJ Upton 2B/OF TB

                    4-12 Lance Berkman 1B/OF HOU
                    4-11 Carlos Pena 1B TB
                    4-10 Mike Lowell 3B BOS
                    4-9 C.C.Sabathia SP CLE
                    4-8 Jonathan Papelbon RP BOS
                    4-7 Dan Haren SP ARI
                    4-6 Alex Rios OF TOR
                    4-5 J.J Putz RP SEA
                    4-4 Robinson Cano 2B NYY
                    4-3 Cole Hamels SP PHI
                    4-2 Justin Morneau 1B MIN
                    4-1 Todd Helton 1B COL

                    5-1 Heath Bell RP SD
                    5-2 Derek Jeter SS NYY
                    5-3 Nick Markakis OF BAL
                    5-4 Garrett Atkins 3B COL
                    5-5 Eric Byrnes OF ARI
                    5-6 John Lackey SP LAA
                    5-7 Russell Martin C LAD
                    5-8 Manny Ramirez OF BOS
                    5-9 Michael Young SS TEX
                    5-10 Brian Roberts 2B BAL
                    5-11 Chone Figgins 3B ANH
                    5-12 Carlos Guillen 1B/SS DET

                    6-12 John Smoltz SP ATL
                    6-11 Justin Verlander SP DET
                    6-10 Aaron Harang SP CIN
                    6-9 Joe Mauer C MIN
                    6-8 Scott Kazmir SP TB
                    6-7 Derrek Lee 1B CHC
                    6-6 Torii Hunter OF LAA
                    6-5 Hunter Pence OF HOU
                    6-4 Chris Young SP SD
                    6-3 Corey Hart OF MIL
                    6-2 Ian Kinsler 2B TEX
                    6-1 Jorge Posada C NYY

                    7-1 Dustin Pedrioa 2B BOS
                    7-2 Francisco Rodriguez RP LAA
                    7-3 Miguel Tejeda SS HOU
                    7-4 Felix Hernandez SP SEA
                    7-5 Roy Oswalt SP HOU
                    7-6 Rafael Furcal SS LAD
                    7-7 Placido Polanco 2B DET
                    7-8 Brad Hawpe OF COL
                    7-9 Rickie Weeks 2B MIL
                    7-10 Brett Myers SP PHI
                    7-11 Jeff Francoeur OF ATL
                    7-12 Gary Sheffield OF DET

                    8-12 Francisco Liriano SP MIN
                    8-11 Tim Lincecum SP SFG
                    8-10 Hideki Matsui OF NYY
                    8-9 Daisuke Matsuzaka SP BOS
                    8-8 Joe Nathan RP MIN
                    8-7 Takashi Saito RP LAD
                    8-6 Javier Vazquez SP CWS
                    8-5 Carlos Zambrano SP CHC
                    8-4 Bobby Jenks RP CHW
                    8-3 Mariano Rivera RP NYY
                    8-2 Roy Halladay SP TOR
                    8-1 Pat Burrell OF PHI

                    9-1 Fausto Carmona SP CLE
                    9-2 Brian McCann C ATL
                    9-3 James Shields SP TB
                    9-4 Travis Hafner 1B CLE
                    9-5 Dan Uggla 2B FLA
                    9-6 Jose Valverde RP HOU
                    9-7 Rich Hill SP CHC
                    9-8 Jason Bay OF PIT
                    9-9 Joba Chamberlain RP NYY
                    9-10 Jose Guillen OF KC
                    9-11 Nick Swisher OF/1B CHW
                    9-12 Francisco Cordero RP CIN

                    10-12 Geovany Soto C CHI
                    10-11 Billy Wagner RP NYM
                    10-10 Trevor Hoffman RP SD
                    10-9 Jacoby Ellsbury OF BOS
                    10-8 A.J. Burnett SP TOR
                    10-7 Rafael Betancourt RP CLE
                    10-6 Huston Street RP OAK
                    10-5 Orlando Cabrera SS CWS
                    10-4 Joakim Soria RP KC
                    10-3 Chris Young OF ARI
                    10-2 Ryan Zimmerman 3B WAS
                    10-1 Jhonny Peralta SS CLE

                    11-1 Carlos Marmol RP CHI
                    11-2 Ben Sheets SP MIL
                    11-3 Kelly Johnson 2B ATL
                    11-4 Matt Cain SP SF
                    11-5 John Maine SP NYM
                    11-6 Adri�n B�ltre 3B SEA
                    11-7 Kelvim Escobar SP LAA
                    11-8 Ian Snell SP PIT
                    11-9 Tim Hudson SP ATL
                    11-10 Brad Penny SP LAD
                    11-11 Pedro Martinez SP NYM
                    11-12 Rafael Soriano RP ATL

                    12-12 Randy Johnson SP ARI
                    12-11 Adrian Gonzalez 1B SD
                    12-10 Aaron Rowand OF SF
                    12-9 Todd Jones RP DET
                    12-8 Andruw Jones OF LAD
                    12-7 Ken Griffey, Jr. OF CIN
                    12-6 Ted Lilly SP CHC
                    12-5 Tony Pena RP Ari
                    12-4 Chad Billingsley SP LAD
                    12-3 Manny Corpas RP COL
                    12-2 Vernon Wells OF TOR
                    12-1 Joe Blanton SP OAK

                    13-1 B.J. Ryan RP TOR
                    13-2 Hideki Okajima RP BOS
                    13-3 Jermaine Dye OF CWS
                    13-4 Chad Cordero RP Nationals
                    13-5 Matt Capps RP Pit
                    13-6 Jason Isringhausen RP StL
                    13-7 Jonathan Broxton RP LAD
                    13-8 Jon Rauch RP WAS
                    13-9 Jeremy Hermida OF FLA
                    13-10 Carlos Ruiz C PHI
                    13-11 Clay Buchholz SP BOS
                    13-12 Jim Thome 1B CHW

                    14-12 Matt Kemp OF LAD
                    14-11 Jarrod Saltalamacchia C TEX
                    14-10 Brad Lidge RP PHI
                    14-9 Jeff Francis SP COL
                    14-8 Mike Napoli C LAA
                    14-7 Jeremy Bonderman SP DET
                    14-6 Chien-Ming Wang SP NYY
                    14-5 J. R. Towles C Hou
                    14-4 Michael Cuddyer OF MIN
                    14-3 Scot Shields RP ARI
                    14-2 Oliver Perez SP NYM
                    14-1 Rafael Perez RP CLE

                    15-1 Daric Barton 1B OAK
                    15-2 Khalil Greene SS SD
                    15-3 Paul Konerko 1B CWS
                    15-4 James Loney 1B LAD
                    15-5 Willy Taveras OF COL
                    15-6 Kenji Johjima C SEA
                    15-7 Edgar Renteria SS DET
                    15-8 Yovani Gallardo SP MIL
                    15-9 Nick Johnson 1B WAS
                    15-10 Derek Lowe SP LAD
                    15-11 Shane Victorino OF PHI
                    15-12 Rich Harden SP OAK

                    16-12 Josh Hamilton OF TEX
                    16-11 Alex Gordon 3B KC
                    16-10 Dustin McGowan SP TOR
                    "Stuie has the right idea" - Japher
                    "I trust Stuie and all involved." - SlowwHand
                    "Stuie is right...." - Guynemer

                    Comment


                    • 1) EPW
                      2) EmpFab
                      3) Snoopy
                      4) Jdd
                      5) Ramsey
                      6) SlowwHand
                      7) Guynemer
                      8) Fistandantilus
                      9) Ninot
                      10) Stuie
                      11) Imran
                      12) Berzerker

                      1-1 Alex Rodriguez 3B NYY
                      1-2 Johan Santana SP NYM
                      1-3 David Wright 3B NYM
                      1-4 Hanley Ramirez SS FLA
                      1-5 Albert Pujols 1B STL
                      1-6 Matt Holliday OF COL
                      1-7 Miguel Cabrera 3B DET
                      1-8 Jose Reyes SS NYM
                      1-9 David Ortiz 1B BOS
                      1-10 Jimmy Rollins SS PHI
                      1-11 Chase Utley 2B PHI
                      1-12 Ryan Braun 3B MIL

                      2-12 Jake Peavy SP SD
                      2-11 Alfonso Soriano OF CHC
                      2-10 Ryan Howard 1B PHI
                      2-9 Vladimir Guerrero OF LAA
                      2-8 Prince Fielder 1B MIL
                      2-7 Carlos Beltran OF NYM
                      2-6 Brandon Phillips 2B CIN
                      2-5 Carlos Lee OF HOU
                      2-4 Grady Sizemore OF CLE
                      2-3 Eric Bedard SP SEA
                      2-2 Ichiro Suzuki OF SEA
                      2-1 Magglio Ordonez OF DET

                      3-1 Brandon Webb SP ARI
                      3-2 Carl Crawford OF TB
                      3-3 Victor Martinez C CLE
                      3-4 Adam Dunn OF CIN
                      3-5 Josh Beckett SP BOS
                      3-6 Mark Teixeira 1B ATL
                      3-7 Curtis Granderson OF DET
                      3-8 Aramis Ramirez 3B CHC
                      3-9 Chipper Jones 3B ATL
                      3-10 Bobby Abreu OF NYY
                      3-11 Troy Tulowitzki SS COL
                      3-12 BJ Upton 2B/OF TB

                      4-12 Lance Berkman 1B/OF HOU
                      4-11 Carlos Pena 1B TB
                      4-10 Mike Lowell 3B BOS
                      4-9 C.C.Sabathia SP CLE
                      4-8 Jonathan Papelbon RP BOS
                      4-7 Dan Haren SP ARI
                      4-6 Alex Rios OF TOR
                      4-5 J.J Putz RP SEA
                      4-4 Robinson Cano 2B NYY
                      4-3 Cole Hamels SP PHI
                      4-2 Justin Morneau 1B MIN
                      4-1 Todd Helton 1B COL

                      5-1 Heath Bell RP SD
                      5-2 Derek Jeter SS NYY
                      5-3 Nick Markakis OF BAL
                      5-4 Garrett Atkins 3B COL
                      5-5 Eric Byrnes OF ARI
                      5-6 John Lackey SP LAA
                      5-7 Russell Martin C LAD
                      5-8 Manny Ramirez OF BOS
                      5-9 Michael Young SS TEX
                      5-10 Brian Roberts 2B BAL
                      5-11 Chone Figgins 3B ANH
                      5-12 Carlos Guillen 1B/SS DET

                      6-12 John Smoltz SP ATL
                      6-11 Justin Verlander SP DET
                      6-10 Aaron Harang SP CIN
                      6-9 Joe Mauer C MIN
                      6-8 Scott Kazmir SP TB
                      6-7 Derrek Lee 1B CHC
                      6-6 Torii Hunter OF LAA
                      6-5 Hunter Pence OF HOU
                      6-4 Chris Young SP SD
                      6-3 Corey Hart OF MIL
                      6-2 Ian Kinsler 2B TEX
                      6-1 Jorge Posada C NYY

                      7-1 Dustin Pedrioa 2B BOS
                      7-2 Francisco Rodriguez RP LAA
                      7-3 Miguel Tejeda SS HOU
                      7-4 Felix Hernandez SP SEA
                      7-5 Roy Oswalt SP HOU
                      7-6 Rafael Furcal SS LAD
                      7-7 Placido Polanco 2B DET
                      7-8 Brad Hawpe OF COL
                      7-9 Rickie Weeks 2B MIL
                      7-10 Brett Myers SP PHI
                      7-11 Jeff Francoeur OF ATL
                      7-12 Gary Sheffield OF DET

                      8-12 Francisco Liriano SP MIN
                      8-11 Tim Lincecum SP SFG
                      8-10 Hideki Matsui OF NYY
                      8-9 Daisuke Matsuzaka SP BOS
                      8-8 Joe Nathan RP MIN
                      8-7 Takashi Saito RP LAD
                      8-6 Javier Vazquez SP CWS
                      8-5 Carlos Zambrano SP CHC
                      8-4 Bobby Jenks RP CHW
                      8-3 Mariano Rivera RP NYY
                      8-2 Roy Halladay SP TOR
                      8-1 Pat Burrell OF PHI

                      9-1 Fausto Carmona SP CLE
                      9-2 Brian McCann C ATL
                      9-3 James Shields SP TB
                      9-4 Travis Hafner 1B CLE
                      9-5 Dan Uggla 2B FLA
                      9-6 Jose Valverde RP HOU
                      9-7 Rich Hill SP CHC
                      9-8 Jason Bay OF PIT
                      9-9 Joba Chamberlain RP NYY
                      9-10 Jose Guillen OF KC
                      9-11 Nick Swisher OF/1B CHW
                      9-12 Francisco Cordero RP CIN

                      10-12 Geovany Soto C CHI
                      10-11 Billy Wagner RP NYM
                      10-10 Trevor Hoffman RP SD
                      10-9 Jacoby Ellsbury OF BOS
                      10-8 A.J. Burnett SP TOR
                      10-7 Rafael Betancourt RP CLE
                      10-6 Huston Street RP OAK
                      10-5 Orlando Cabrera SS CWS
                      10-4 Joakim Soria RP KC
                      10-3 Chris Young OF ARI
                      10-2 Ryan Zimmerman 3B WAS
                      10-1 Jhonny Peralta SS CLE

                      11-1 Carlos Marmol RP CHI
                      11-2 Ben Sheets SP MIL
                      11-3 Kelly Johnson 2B ATL
                      11-4 Matt Cain SP SF
                      11-5 John Maine SP NYM
                      11-6 Adri�n B�ltre 3B SEA
                      11-7 Kelvim Escobar SP LAA
                      11-8 Ian Snell SP PIT
                      11-9 Tim Hudson SP ATL
                      11-10 Brad Penny SP LAD
                      11-11 Pedro Martinez SP NYM
                      11-12 Rafael Soriano RP ATL

                      12-12 Randy Johnson SP ARI
                      12-11 Adrian Gonzalez 1B SD
                      12-10 Aaron Rowand OF SF
                      12-9 Todd Jones RP DET
                      12-8 Andruw Jones OF LAD
                      12-7 Ken Griffey, Jr. OF CIN
                      12-6 Ted Lilly SP CHC
                      12-5 Tony Pena RP Ari
                      12-4 Chad Billingsley SP LAD
                      12-3 Manny Corpas RP COL
                      12-2 Vernon Wells OF TOR
                      12-1 Joe Blanton SP OAK

                      13-1 B.J. Ryan RP TOR
                      13-2 Hideki Okajima RP BOS
                      13-3 Jermaine Dye OF CWS
                      13-4 Chad Cordero RP Nationals
                      13-5 Matt Capps RP Pit
                      13-6 Jason Isringhausen RP StL
                      13-7 Jonathan Broxton RP LAD
                      13-8 Jon Rauch RP WAS
                      13-9 Jeremy Hermida OF FLA
                      13-10 Carlos Ruiz C PHI
                      13-11 Clay Buchholz SP BOS
                      13-12 Jim Thome 1B CHW

                      14-12 Matt Kemp OF LAD
                      14-11 Jarrod Saltalamacchia C TEX
                      14-10 Brad Lidge RP PHI
                      14-9 Jeff Francis SP COL
                      14-8 Mike Napoli C LAA
                      14-7 Jeremy Bonderman SP DET
                      14-6 Chien-Ming Wang SP NYY
                      14-5 J. R. Towles C Hou
                      14-4 Michael Cuddyer OF MIN
                      14-3 Scot Shields RP ARI
                      14-2 Oliver Perez SP NYM
                      14-1 Rafael Perez RP CLE

                      15-1 Daric Barton 1B OAK
                      15-2 Khalil Greene SS SD
                      15-3 Paul Konerko 1B CWS
                      15-4 James Loney 1B LAD
                      15-5 Willy Taveras OF COL
                      15-6 Kenji Johjima C SEA
                      15-7 Edgar Renteria SS DET
                      15-8 Yovani Gallardo SP MIL
                      15-9 Nick Johnson 1B WAS
                      15-10 Derek Lowe SP LAD
                      15-11 Shane Victorino OF PHI
                      15-12 Rich Harden SP OAK

                      16-12 Josh Hamilton OF TEX
                      16-11 Alex Gordon 3B KC
                      16-10 Dustin McGowan SP TOR
                      16-9 Jeremy Accardo RP TOR


                      Do I smell a run on Toronto pitchers?
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                        1-1 Alex Rodriguez 3B NYY
                        1-2 Johan Santana SP NYM
                        1-3 David Wright 3B NYM
                        1-4 Hanley Ramirez SS FLA
                        1-5 Albert Pujols 1B STL
                        1-6 Matt Holliday OF COL
                        1-7 Miguel Cabrera 3B DET
                        1-8 Jose Reyes SS NYM
                        1-9 David Ortiz 1B BOS
                        1-10 Jimmy Rollins SS PHI
                        1-11 Chase Utley 2B PHI
                        1-12 Ryan Braun 3B MIL

                        2-12 Jake Peavy SP SD
                        2-11 Alfonso Soriano OF CHC
                        2-10 Ryan Howard 1B PHI
                        2-9 Vladimir Guerrero OF LAA
                        2-8 Prince Fielder 1B MIL
                        2-7 Carlos Beltran OF NYM
                        2-6 Brandon Phillips 2B CIN
                        2-5 Carlos Lee OF HOU
                        2-4 Grady Sizemore OF CLE
                        2-3 Eric Bedard SP SEA
                        2-2 Ichiro Suzuki OF SEA
                        2-1 Magglio Ordonez OF DET

                        3-1 Brandon Webb SP ARI
                        3-2 Carl Crawford OF TB
                        3-3 Victor Martinez C CLE
                        3-4 Adam Dunn OF CIN
                        3-5 Josh Beckett SP BOS
                        3-6 Mark Teixeira 1B ATL
                        3-7 Curtis Granderson OF DET
                        3-8 Aramis Ramirez 3B CHC
                        3-9 Chipper Jones 3B ATL
                        3-10 Bobby Abreu OF NYY
                        3-11 Troy Tulowitzki SS COL
                        3-12 BJ Upton 2B/OF TB

                        4-12 Lance Berkman 1B/OF HOU
                        4-11 Carlos Pena 1B TB
                        4-10 Mike Lowell 3B BOS
                        4-9 C.C.Sabathia SP CLE
                        4-8 Jonathan Papelbon RP BOS
                        4-7 Dan Haren SP ARI
                        4-6 Alex Rios OF TOR
                        4-5 J.J Putz RP SEA
                        4-4 Robinson Cano 2B NYY
                        4-3 Cole Hamels SP PHI
                        4-2 Justin Morneau 1B MIN
                        4-1 Todd Helton 1B COL

                        5-1 Heath Bell RP SD
                        5-2 Derek Jeter SS NYY
                        5-3 Nick Markakis OF BAL
                        5-4 Garrett Atkins 3B COL
                        5-5 Eric Byrnes OF ARI
                        5-6 John Lackey SP LAA
                        5-7 Russell Martin C LAD
                        5-8 Manny Ramirez OF BOS
                        5-9 Michael Young SS TEX
                        5-10 Brian Roberts 2B BAL
                        5-11 Chone Figgins 3B ANH
                        5-12 Carlos Guillen 1B/SS DET

                        6-12 John Smoltz SP ATL
                        6-11 Justin Verlander SP DET
                        6-10 Aaron Harang SP CIN
                        6-9 Joe Mauer C MIN
                        6-8 Scott Kazmir SP TB
                        6-7 Derrek Lee 1B CHC
                        6-6 Torii Hunter OF LAA
                        6-5 Hunter Pence OF HOU
                        6-4 Chris Young SP SD
                        6-3 Corey Hart OF MIL
                        6-2 Ian Kinsler 2B TEX
                        6-1 Jorge Posada C NYY

                        7-1 Dustin Pedrioa 2B BOS
                        7-2 Francisco Rodriguez RP LAA
                        7-3 Miguel Tejeda SS HOU
                        7-4 Felix Hernandez SP SEA
                        7-5 Roy Oswalt SP HOU
                        7-6 Rafael Furcal SS LAD
                        7-7 Placido Polanco 2B DET
                        7-8 Brad Hawpe OF COL
                        7-9 Rickie Weeks 2B MIL
                        7-10 Brett Myers SP PHI
                        7-11 Jeff Francoeur OF ATL
                        7-12 Gary Sheffield OF DET

                        8-12 Francisco Liriano SP MIN
                        8-11 Tim Lincecum SP SFG
                        8-10 Hideki Matsui OF NYY
                        8-9 Daisuke Matsuzaka SP BOS
                        8-8 Joe Nathan RP MIN
                        8-7 Takashi Saito RP LAD
                        8-6 Javier Vazquez SP CWS
                        8-5 Carlos Zambrano SP CHC
                        8-4 Bobby Jenks RP CHW
                        8-3 Mariano Rivera RP NYY
                        8-2 Roy Halladay SP TOR
                        8-1 Pat Burrell OF PHI

                        9-1 Fausto Carmona SP CLE
                        9-2 Brian McCann C ATL
                        9-3 James Shields SP TB
                        9-4 Travis Hafner 1B CLE
                        9-5 Dan Uggla 2B FLA
                        9-6 Jose Valverde RP HOU
                        9-7 Rich Hill SP CHC
                        9-8 Jason Bay OF PIT
                        9-9 Joba Chamberlain RP NYY
                        9-10 Jose Guillen OF KC
                        9-11 Nick Swisher OF/1B CHW
                        9-12 Francisco Cordero RP CIN

                        10-12 Geovany Soto C CHI
                        10-11 Billy Wagner RP NYM
                        10-10 Trevor Hoffman RP SD
                        10-9 Jacoby Ellsbury OF BOS
                        10-8 A.J. Burnett SP TOR
                        10-7 Rafael Betancourt RP CLE
                        10-6 Huston Street RP OAK
                        10-5 Orlando Cabrera SS CWS
                        10-4 Joakim Soria RP KC
                        10-3 Chris Young OF ARI
                        10-2 Ryan Zimmerman 3B WAS
                        10-1 Jhonny Peralta SS CLE

                        11-1 Carlos Marmol RP CHI
                        11-2 Ben Sheets SP MIL
                        11-3 Kelly Johnson 2B ATL
                        11-4 Matt Cain SP SF
                        11-5 John Maine SP NYM
                        11-6 Adri�n B�ltre 3B SEA
                        11-7 Kelvim Escobar SP LAA
                        11-8 Ian Snell SP PIT
                        11-9 Tim Hudson SP ATL
                        11-10 Brad Penny SP LAD
                        11-11 Pedro Martinez SP NYM
                        11-12 Rafael Soriano RP ATL

                        12-12 Randy Johnson SP ARI
                        12-11 Adrian Gonzalez 1B SD
                        12-10 Aaron Rowand OF SF
                        12-9 Todd Jones RP DET
                        12-8 Andruw Jones OF LAD
                        12-7 Ken Griffey, Jr. OF CIN
                        12-6 Ted Lilly SP CHC
                        12-5 Tony Pena RP Ari
                        12-4 Chad Billingsley SP LAD
                        12-3 Manny Corpas RP COL
                        12-2 Vernon Wells OF TOR
                        12-1 Joe Blanton SP OAK

                        13-1 B.J. Ryan RP TOR
                        13-2 Hideki Okajima RP BOS
                        13-3 Jermaine Dye OF CWS
                        13-4 Chad Cordero RP Nationals
                        13-5 Matt Capps RP Pit
                        13-6 Jason Isringhausen RP StL
                        13-7 Jonathan Broxton RP LAD
                        13-8 Jon Rauch RP WAS
                        13-9 Jeremy Hermida OF FLA
                        13-10 Carlos Ruiz C PHI
                        13-11 Clay Buchholz SP BOS
                        13-12 Jim Thome 1B CHW

                        14-12 Matt Kemp OF LAD
                        14-11 Jarrod Saltalamacchia C TEX
                        14-10 Brad Lidge RP PHI
                        14-9 Jeff Francis SP COL
                        14-8 Mike Napoli C LAA
                        14-7 Jeremy Bonderman SP DET
                        14-6 Chien-Ming Wang SP NYY
                        14-5 J. R. Towles C Hou
                        14-4 Michael Cuddyer OF MIN
                        14-3 Scot Shields RP ARI
                        14-2 Oliver Perez SP NYM
                        14-1 Rafael Perez RP CLE

                        15-1 Daric Barton 1B OAK
                        15-2 Khalil Greene SS SD
                        15-3 Paul Konerko 1B CWS
                        15-4 James Loney 1B LAD
                        15-5 Willy Taveras OF COL
                        15-6 Kenji Johjima C SEA
                        15-7 Edgar Renteria SS DET
                        15-8 Yovani Gallardo SP MIL
                        15-9 Nick Johnson 1B WAS
                        15-10 Derek Lowe SP LAD
                        15-11 Shane Victorino OF PHI
                        15-12 Rich Harden SP OAK

                        16-12 Josh Hamilton OF TEX
                        16-11 Alex Gordon 3B KC
                        16-10 Dustin McGowan SP TOR
                        16-9 Jeremy Accardo RP TOR
                        16-8 Orlando Hudson 2B ARI
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                        • Gordon is a good pick ... I would've taken him if you didn't Would've taken him in 15 but Paulie is a much better selection for everything but SBs.
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                          • Agreed about Konerko, but I figured Gordon would give me a bit of flexibility, since Chone Figgins (my "starter" at 3B right now) can play OF and 2B for me as well.

                            And I have a backup 1B.
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                            • Oh, certainly. A great choice in the 16th Also lets you drop out Chone in weeks where steals are useless and you actually want SLG and HR.
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                              • Can we draft Billy Crystal?
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