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  • Jimmy Rollins SS
    Was your first choice and Berz picked after you. Don't try that trickery.
    Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
    "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
    He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

    Comment


    • Hey-

      Jimmy Rollins MVP PHI

      Was my first choice. Who did you vote for? Hillary?
      "Stuie has the right idea" - Japher
      "I trust Stuie and all involved." - SlowwHand
      "Stuie is right...." - Guynemer

      Comment


      • You're pushing my buttons now.
        Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
        "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
        He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

        Comment


        • Harang is probably the better pitcher for this format. Better K/BB, better K/9, similar ERA, better WHIP... wins don't matter, so the DET boost doesn't help Verlander. I'd choose Harang probably as the 7th best pitcher out there - ahead of several (including Verlander) that went before him.
          <Reverend> IRC is just multiplayer notepad.
          I like your SNOOPY POSTER! - While you Wait quote.

          Comment


          • 1) EPW
            2) EmpFab
            3) Snoopy
            4) Jdd
            5) Ramsey
            6) SlowwHand
            7) Guynemer
            8) Fistandantilus
            9) Ninot
            10) Stuie
            11) Imran
            12) Berzerker

            1-1 Alex Rodriguez 3B NYY
            1-2 Johan Santana SP NYM
            1-3 David Wright 3B NYM
            1-4 Hanley Ramirez SS FLA
            1-5 Albert Pujols 1B STL
            1-6 Matt Holliday OF COL
            1-7 Miguel Cabrera 3B DET
            1-8 Jose Reyes SS NYM
            1-9 David Ortiz 1B BOS
            1-10 Jimmy Rollins SS PHI
            1-11 Chase Utley 2B PHI
            1-12 Ryan Braun 3B MIL

            2-12 Jake Peavy SP SD
            2-11 Alfonso Soriano OF CHC
            2-10 Ryan Howard 1B PHI
            2-9 Vladimir Guerrero OF LAA
            2-8 Prince Fielder 1B MIL
            2-7 Carlos Beltran OF NYM
            2-6 Brandon Phillips 2B CIN
            2-5 Carlos Lee OF HOU
            2-4 Grady Sizemore OF CLE
            2-3 Eric Bedard SP SEA
            2-2 Ichiro Suzuki OF SEA
            2-1 Magglio Ordonez OF DET

            3-1 Brandon Webb SP ARI
            3-2 Carl Crawford OF TB
            3-3 Victor Martinez C CLE
            3-4 Adam Dunn OF CIN
            3-5 Josh Beckett SP BOS
            3-6 Mark Teixeira 1B ATL
            3-7 Curtis Granderson OF DET
            3-8 Aramis Ramirez 3B CHC
            3-9 Chipper Jones 3B ATL
            3-10 Bobby Abreu OF NYY
            3-11 Troy Tulowitzki SS COL
            3-12 BJ Upton 2B/OF TB

            4-12 Lance Berkman 1B/OF HOU
            4-11 Carlos Pena 1B TB
            4-10 Mike Lowell 3B BOS
            4-9 C.C.Sabathia SP CLE
            4-8 Jonathan Papelbon RP BOS
            4-7 Dan Haren SP ARI
            4-6 Alex Rios OF TOR
            4-5 J.J Putz RP SEA
            4-4 Robinson Cano 2B NYY
            4-3 Cole Hamels SP PHI
            4-2 Justin Morneau 1B MIN
            4-1 Todd Helton 1B COL

            5-1 Heath Bell RP SD
            5-2 Derek Jeter SS NYY
            5-3 Nick Markakis OF BAL
            5-4 Garrett Atkins 3B COL
            5-5 Eric Byrnes OF ARI
            5-6 John Lackey SP LAA
            5-7 Russell Martin C LAD
            5-8 Manny Ramirez OF BOS
            5-9 Michael Young SS TEX
            5-10 Brian Roberts 2B BAL
            5-11 Chone Figgins 3B ANH
            5-12 Carlos Guillen 1B/SS DET

            6-12 John Smoltz SP ATL
            6-11 Justin Verlander SP DET
            6-10 Aaron Harang SP CIN
            6-9 Joe Mauer C MIN
            6-8
            6-7
            6-6
            6-5
            6-4
            6-3
            6-3
            6-1

            7-1

            Sloww has Fist picks, right?
            Resident Filipina Lady Boy Expert.

            Comment


            • Originally posted by Ninot

              Sloww has Fist picks, right?
              Nope, but I'm here hoping Scott can issue less walks than a zillion.

              1) EPW
              2) EmpFab
              3) Snoopy
              4) Jdd
              5) Ramsey
              6) SlowwHand
              7) Guynemer
              8) Fistandantilus
              9) Ninot
              10) Stuie
              11) Imran
              12) Berzerker

              1-1 Alex Rodriguez 3B NYY
              1-2 Johan Santana SP NYM
              1-3 David Wright 3B NYM
              1-4 Hanley Ramirez SS FLA
              1-5 Albert Pujols 1B STL
              1-6 Matt Holliday OF COL
              1-7 Miguel Cabrera 3B DET
              1-8 Jose Reyes SS NYM
              1-9 David Ortiz 1B BOS
              1-10 Jimmy Rollins SS PHI
              1-11 Chase Utley 2B PHI
              1-12 Ryan Braun 3B MIL

              2-12 Jake Peavy SP SD
              2-11 Alfonso Soriano OF CHC
              2-10 Ryan Howard 1B PHI
              2-9 Vladimir Guerrero OF LAA
              2-8 Prince Fielder 1B MIL
              2-7 Carlos Beltran OF NYM
              2-6 Brandon Phillips 2B CIN
              2-5 Carlos Lee OF HOU
              2-4 Grady Sizemore OF CLE
              2-3 Eric Bedard SP SEA
              2-2 Ichiro Suzuki OF SEA
              2-1 Magglio Ordonez OF DET

              3-1 Brandon Webb SP ARI
              3-2 Carl Crawford OF TB
              3-3 Victor Martinez C CLE
              3-4 Adam Dunn OF CIN
              3-5 Josh Beckett SP BOS
              3-6 Mark Teixeira 1B ATL
              3-7 Curtis Granderson OF DET
              3-8 Aramis Ramirez 3B CHC
              3-9 Chipper Jones 3B ATL
              3-10 Bobby Abreu OF NYY
              3-11 Troy Tulowitzki SS COL
              3-12 BJ Upton 2B/OF TB

              4-12 Lance Berkman 1B/OF HOU
              4-11 Carlos Pena 1B TB
              4-10 Mike Lowell 3B BOS
              4-9 C.C.Sabathia SP CLE
              4-8 Jonathan Papelbon RP BOS
              4-7 Dan Haren SP ARI
              4-6 Alex Rios OF TOR
              4-5 J.J Putz RP SEA
              4-4 Robinson Cano 2B NYY
              4-3 Cole Hamels SP PHI
              4-2 Justin Morneau 1B MIN
              4-1 Todd Helton 1B COL

              5-1 Heath Bell RP SD
              5-2 Derek Jeter SS NYY
              5-3 Nick Markakis OF BAL
              5-4 Garrett Atkins 3B COL
              5-5 Eric Byrnes OF ARI
              5-6 John Lackey SP LAA
              5-7 Russell Martin C LAD
              5-8 Manny Ramirez OF BOS
              5-9 Michael Young SS TEX
              5-10 Brian Roberts 2B BAL
              5-11 Chone Figgins 3B ANH
              5-12 Carlos Guillen 1B/SS DET

              6-12 John Smoltz SP ATL
              6-11 Justin Verlander SP DET
              6-10 Aaron Harang SP CIN
              6-9 Joe Mauer C MIN
              6-8 Scott Kazmir SP TB
              6-7
              6-6
              6-5
              6-4
              6-3
              6-3
              6-1

              7-1

              Comment


              • His k/bb is not too bad, but considering the K number it is
                <Reverend> IRC is just multiplayer notepad.
                I like your SNOOPY POSTER! - While you Wait quote.

                Comment


                • DP


                  PM sent
                  "My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
                  "The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud

                  Comment


                  • DAMN YOU PEOPLE!

                    My next two preferences were Guillen and Verlander. ****ers. This is a tough part of the draft... there are a few positions were there are clearly one or two upper tier players left, and then a big drop off. I'll roll the dice on another corner infielder...

                    1) EPW
                    2) EmpFab
                    3) Snoopy
                    4) Jdd
                    5) Ramsey
                    6) SlowwHand
                    7) Guynemer
                    8) Fistandantilus
                    9) Ninot
                    10) Stuie
                    11) Imran
                    12) Berzerker

                    1-1 Alex Rodriguez 3B NYY
                    1-2 Johan Santana SP NYM
                    1-3 David Wright 3B NYM
                    1-4 Hanley Ramirez SS FLA
                    1-5 Albert Pujols 1B STL
                    1-6 Matt Holliday OF COL
                    1-7 Miguel Cabrera 3B DET
                    1-8 Jose Reyes SS NYM
                    1-9 David Ortiz 1B BOS
                    1-10 Jimmy Rollins SS PHI
                    1-11 Chase Utley 2B PHI
                    1-12 Ryan Braun 3B MIL

                    2-12 Jake Peavy SP SD
                    2-11 Alfonso Soriano OF CHC
                    2-10 Ryan Howard 1B PHI
                    2-9 Vladimir Guerrero OF LAA
                    2-8 Prince Fielder 1B MIL
                    2-7 Carlos Beltran OF NYM
                    2-6 Brandon Phillips 2B CIN
                    2-5 Carlos Lee OF HOU
                    2-4 Grady Sizemore OF CLE
                    2-3 Eric Bedard SP SEA
                    2-2 Ichiro Suzuki OF SEA
                    2-1 Magglio Ordonez OF DET

                    3-1 Brandon Webb SP ARI
                    3-2 Carl Crawford OF TB
                    3-3 Victor Martinez C CLE
                    3-4 Adam Dunn OF CIN
                    3-5 Josh Beckett SP BOS
                    3-6 Mark Teixeira 1B ATL
                    3-7 Curtis Granderson OF DET
                    3-8 Aramis Ramirez 3B CHC
                    3-9 Chipper Jones 3B ATL
                    3-10 Bobby Abreu OF NYY
                    3-11 Troy Tulowitzki SS COL
                    3-12 BJ Upton 2B/OF TB

                    4-12 Lance Berkman 1B/OF HOU
                    4-11 Carlos Pena 1B TB
                    4-10 Mike Lowell 3B BOS
                    4-9 C.C.Sabathia SP CLE
                    4-8 Jonathan Papelbon RP BOS
                    4-7 Dan Haren SP ARI
                    4-6 Alex Rios OF TOR
                    4-5 J.J Putz RP SEA
                    4-4 Robinson Cano 2B NYY
                    4-3 Cole Hamels SP PHI
                    4-2 Justin Morneau 1B MIN
                    4-1 Todd Helton 1B COL

                    5-1 Heath Bell RP SD
                    5-2 Derek Jeter SS NYY
                    5-3 Nick Markakis OF BAL
                    5-4 Garrett Atkins 3B COL
                    5-5 Eric Byrnes OF ARI
                    5-6 John Lackey SP LAA
                    5-7 Russell Martin C LAD
                    5-8 Manny Ramirez OF BOS
                    5-9 Michael Young SS TEX
                    5-10 Brian Roberts 2B BAL
                    5-11 Chone Figgins 3B ANH
                    5-12 Carlos Guillen 1B/SS DET

                    6-12 John Smoltz SP ATL
                    6-11 Justin Verlander SP DET
                    6-10 Aaron Harang SP CIN
                    6-9 Joe Mauer C MIN
                    6-8 Scott Kazmir SP TB
                    6-7 Derrek Lee 1B CHC
                    6-6
                    6-5
                    6-4
                    6-3
                    6-3
                    6-1

                    7-1
                    "My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
                    "The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud

                    Comment


                    • 1) EPW
                      2) EmpFab
                      3) Snoopy
                      4) Jdd
                      5) Ramsey
                      6) SlowwHand
                      7) Guynemer
                      8) Fistandantilus
                      9) Ninot
                      10) Stuie
                      11) Imran
                      12) Berzerker

                      1-1 Alex Rodriguez 3B NYY
                      1-2 Johan Santana SP NYM
                      1-3 David Wright 3B NYM
                      1-4 Hanley Ramirez SS FLA
                      1-5 Albert Pujols 1B STL
                      1-6 Matt Holliday OF COL
                      1-7 Miguel Cabrera 3B DET
                      1-8 Jose Reyes SS NYM
                      1-9 David Ortiz 1B BOS
                      1-10 Jimmy Rollins SS PHI
                      1-11 Chase Utley 2B PHI
                      1-12 Ryan Braun 3B MIL

                      2-12 Jake Peavy SP SD
                      2-11 Alfonso Soriano OF CHC
                      2-10 Ryan Howard 1B PHI
                      2-9 Vladimir Guerrero OF LAA
                      2-8 Prince Fielder 1B MIL
                      2-7 Carlos Beltran OF NYM
                      2-6 Brandon Phillips 2B CIN
                      2-5 Carlos Lee OF HOU
                      2-4 Grady Sizemore OF CLE
                      2-3 Eric Bedard SP SEA
                      2-2 Ichiro Suzuki OF SEA
                      2-1 Magglio Ordonez OF DET

                      3-1 Brandon Webb SP ARI
                      3-2 Carl Crawford OF TB
                      3-3 Victor Martinez C CLE
                      3-4 Adam Dunn OF CIN
                      3-5 Josh Beckett SP BOS
                      3-6 Mark Teixeira 1B ATL
                      3-7 Curtis Granderson OF DET
                      3-8 Aramis Ramirez 3B CHC
                      3-9 Chipper Jones 3B ATL
                      3-10 Bobby Abreu OF NYY
                      3-11 Troy Tulowitzki SS COL
                      3-12 BJ Upton 2B/OF TB

                      4-12 Lance Berkman 1B/OF HOU
                      4-11 Carlos Pena 1B TB
                      4-10 Mike Lowell 3B BOS
                      4-9 C.C.Sabathia SP CLE
                      4-8 Jonathan Papelbon RP BOS
                      4-7 Dan Haren SP ARI
                      4-6 Alex Rios OF TOR
                      4-5 J.J Putz RP SEA
                      4-4 Robinson Cano 2B NYY
                      4-3 Cole Hamels SP PHI
                      4-2 Justin Morneau 1B MIN
                      4-1 Todd Helton 1B COL

                      5-1 Heath Bell RP SD
                      5-2 Derek Jeter SS NYY
                      5-3 Nick Markakis OF BAL
                      5-4 Garrett Atkins 3B COL
                      5-5 Eric Byrnes OF ARI
                      5-6 John Lackey SP LAA
                      5-7 Russell Martin C LAD
                      5-8 Manny Ramirez OF BOS
                      5-9 Michael Young SS TEX
                      5-10 Brian Roberts 2B BAL
                      5-11 Chone Figgins 3B ANH
                      5-12 Carlos Guillen 1B/SS DET

                      6-12 John Smoltz SP ATL
                      6-11 Justin Verlander SP DET
                      6-10 Aaron Harang SP CIN
                      6-9 Joe Mauer C MIN
                      6-8 Scott Kazmir SP TB
                      6-7 Derrek Lee 1B CHC
                      6-6 Torii Hunter OF LAA
                      6-5
                      6-4
                      6-3
                      6-3
                      6-1

                      7-1
                      Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                      "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                      He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

                      Comment


                      • 1) EPW
                        2) EmpFab
                        3) Snoopy
                        4) Jdd
                        5) Ramsey
                        6) SlowwHand
                        7) Guynemer
                        8) Fistandantilus
                        9) Ninot
                        10) Stuie
                        11) Imran
                        12) Berzerker

                        1-1 Alex Rodriguez 3B NYY
                        1-2 Johan Santana SP NYM
                        1-3 David Wright 3B NYM
                        1-4 Hanley Ramirez SS FLA
                        1-5 Albert Pujols 1B STL
                        1-6 Matt Holliday OF COL
                        1-7 Miguel Cabrera 3B DET
                        1-8 Jose Reyes SS NYM
                        1-9 David Ortiz 1B BOS
                        1-10 Jimmy Rollins SS PHI
                        1-11 Chase Utley 2B PHI
                        1-12 Ryan Braun 3B MIL

                        2-12 Jake Peavy SP SD
                        2-11 Alfonso Soriano OF CHC
                        2-10 Ryan Howard 1B PHI
                        2-9 Vladimir Guerrero OF LAA
                        2-8 Prince Fielder 1B MIL
                        2-7 Carlos Beltran OF NYM
                        2-6 Brandon Phillips 2B CIN
                        2-5 Carlos Lee OF HOU
                        2-4 Grady Sizemore OF CLE
                        2-3 Eric Bedard SP SEA
                        2-2 Ichiro Suzuki OF SEA
                        2-1 Magglio Ordonez OF DET

                        3-1 Brandon Webb SP ARI
                        3-2 Carl Crawford OF TB
                        3-3 Victor Martinez C CLE
                        3-4 Adam Dunn OF CIN
                        3-5 Josh Beckett SP BOS
                        3-6 Mark Teixeira 1B ATL
                        3-7 Curtis Granderson OF DET
                        3-8 Aramis Ramirez 3B CHC
                        3-9 Chipper Jones 3B ATL
                        3-10 Bobby Abreu OF NYY
                        3-11 Troy Tulowitzki SS COL
                        3-12 BJ Upton 2B/OF TB

                        4-12 Lance Berkman 1B/OF HOU
                        4-11 Carlos Pena 1B TB
                        4-10 Mike Lowell 3B BOS
                        4-9 C.C.Sabathia SP CLE
                        4-8 Jonathan Papelbon RP BOS
                        4-7 Dan Haren SP ARI
                        4-6 Alex Rios OF TOR
                        4-5 J.J Putz RP SEA
                        4-4 Robinson Cano 2B NYY
                        4-3 Cole Hamels SP PHI
                        4-2 Justin Morneau 1B MIN
                        4-1 Todd Helton 1B COL

                        5-1 Heath Bell RP SD
                        5-2 Derek Jeter SS NYY
                        5-3 Nick Markakis OF BAL
                        5-4 Garrett Atkins 3B COL
                        5-5 Eric Byrnes OF ARI
                        5-6 John Lackey SP LAA
                        5-7 Russell Martin C LAD
                        5-8 Manny Ramirez OF BOS
                        5-9 Michael Young SS TEX
                        5-10 Brian Roberts 2B BAL
                        5-11 Chone Figgins 3B ANH
                        5-12 Carlos Guillen 1B/SS DET

                        6-12 John Smoltz SP ATL
                        6-11 Justin Verlander SP DET
                        6-10 Aaron Harang SP CIN
                        6-9 Joe Mauer C MIN
                        6-8 Scott Kazmir SP TB
                        6-7 Derrek Lee 1B CHC
                        6-6 Torii Hunter OF LAA
                        6-5 Hunter Pence OF Hou
                        6-4
                        6-3
                        6-3
                        6-1

                        7-1

                        Comment


                        • 1) EPW
                          2) EmpFab
                          3) Snoopy
                          4) Jdd
                          5) Ramsey
                          6) SlowwHand
                          7) Guynemer
                          8) Fistandantilus
                          9) Ninot
                          10) Stuie
                          11) Imran
                          12) Berzerker

                          1-1 Alex Rodriguez 3B NYY
                          1-2 Johan Santana SP NYM
                          1-3 David Wright 3B NYM
                          1-4 Hanley Ramirez SS FLA
                          1-5 Albert Pujols 1B STL
                          1-6 Matt Holliday OF COL
                          1-7 Miguel Cabrera 3B DET
                          1-8 Jose Reyes SS NYM
                          1-9 David Ortiz 1B BOS
                          1-10 Jimmy Rollins SS PHI
                          1-11 Chase Utley 2B PHI
                          1-12 Ryan Braun 3B MIL

                          2-12 Jake Peavy SP SD
                          2-11 Alfonso Soriano OF CHC
                          2-10 Ryan Howard 1B PHI
                          2-9 Vladimir Guerrero OF LAA
                          2-8 Prince Fielder 1B MIL
                          2-7 Carlos Beltran OF NYM
                          2-6 Brandon Phillips 2B CIN
                          2-5 Carlos Lee OF HOU
                          2-4 Grady Sizemore OF CLE
                          2-3 Eric Bedard SP SEA
                          2-2 Ichiro Suzuki OF SEA
                          2-1 Magglio Ordonez OF DET

                          3-1 Brandon Webb SP ARI
                          3-2 Carl Crawford OF TB
                          3-3 Victor Martinez C CLE
                          3-4 Adam Dunn OF CIN
                          3-5 Josh Beckett SP BOS
                          3-6 Mark Teixeira 1B ATL
                          3-7 Curtis Granderson OF DET
                          3-8 Aramis Ramirez 3B CHC
                          3-9 Chipper Jones 3B ATL
                          3-10 Bobby Abreu OF NYY
                          3-11 Troy Tulowitzki SS COL
                          3-12 BJ Upton 2B/OF TB

                          4-12 Lance Berkman 1B/OF HOU
                          4-11 Carlos Pena 1B TB
                          4-10 Mike Lowell 3B BOS
                          4-9 C.C.Sabathia SP CLE
                          4-8 Jonathan Papelbon RP BOS
                          4-7 Dan Haren SP ARI
                          4-6 Alex Rios OF TOR
                          4-5 J.J Putz RP SEA
                          4-4 Robinson Cano 2B NYY
                          4-3 Cole Hamels SP PHI
                          4-2 Justin Morneau 1B MIN
                          4-1 Todd Helton 1B COL

                          5-1 Heath Bell RP SD
                          5-2 Derek Jeter SS NYY
                          5-3 Nick Markakis OF BAL
                          5-4 Garrett Atkins 3B COL
                          5-5 Eric Byrnes OF ARI
                          5-6 John Lackey SP LAA
                          5-7 Russell Martin C LAD
                          5-8 Manny Ramirez OF BOS
                          5-9 Michael Young SS TEX
                          5-10 Brian Roberts 2B BAL
                          5-11 Chone Figgins 3B ANH
                          5-12 Carlos Guillen 1B/SS DET

                          6-12 John Smoltz SP ATL
                          6-11 Justin Verlander SP DET
                          6-10 Aaron Harang SP CIN
                          6-9 Joe Mauer C MIN
                          6-8 Scott Kazmir SP TB
                          6-7 Derrek Lee 1B CHC
                          6-6 Torii Hunter OF LAA
                          6-5 Hunter Pence OF Hou
                          6-4 Chris Young SP SDP
                          6-3
                          6-3
                          6-1

                          7-1

                          Comment


                          • 1) EPW
                            2) EmpFab
                            3) Snoopy
                            4) Jdd
                            5) Ramsey
                            6) SlowwHand
                            7) Guynemer
                            8) Fistandantilus
                            9) Ninot
                            10) Stuie
                            11) Imran
                            12) Berzerker

                            1-1 Alex Rodriguez 3B NYY
                            1-2 Johan Santana SP NYM
                            1-3 David Wright 3B NYM
                            1-4 Hanley Ramirez SS FLA
                            1-5 Albert Pujols 1B STL
                            1-6 Matt Holliday OF COL
                            1-7 Miguel Cabrera 3B DET
                            1-8 Jose Reyes SS NYM
                            1-9 David Ortiz 1B BOS
                            1-10 Jimmy Rollins SS PHI
                            1-11 Chase Utley 2B PHI
                            1-12 Ryan Braun 3B MIL

                            2-12 Jake Peavy SP SD
                            2-11 Alfonso Soriano OF CHC
                            2-10 Ryan Howard 1B PHI
                            2-9 Vladimir Guerrero OF LAA
                            2-8 Prince Fielder 1B MIL
                            2-7 Carlos Beltran OF NYM
                            2-6 Brandon Phillips 2B CIN
                            2-5 Carlos Lee OF HOU
                            2-4 Grady Sizemore OF CLE
                            2-3 Eric Bedard SP SEA
                            2-2 Ichiro Suzuki OF SEA
                            2-1 Magglio Ordonez OF DET

                            3-1 Brandon Webb SP ARI
                            3-2 Carl Crawford OF TB
                            3-3 Victor Martinez C CLE
                            3-4 Adam Dunn OF CIN
                            3-5 Josh Beckett SP BOS
                            3-6 Mark Teixeira 1B ATL
                            3-7 Curtis Granderson OF DET
                            3-8 Aramis Ramirez 3B CHC
                            3-9 Chipper Jones 3B ATL
                            3-10 Bobby Abreu OF NYY
                            3-11 Troy Tulowitzki SS COL
                            3-12 BJ Upton 2B/OF TB

                            4-12 Lance Berkman 1B/OF HOU
                            4-11 Carlos Pena 1B TB
                            4-10 Mike Lowell 3B BOS
                            4-9 C.C.Sabathia SP CLE
                            4-8 Jonathan Papelbon RP BOS
                            4-7 Dan Haren SP ARI
                            4-6 Alex Rios OF TOR
                            4-5 J.J Putz RP SEA
                            4-4 Robinson Cano 2B NYY
                            4-3 Cole Hamels SP PHI
                            4-2 Justin Morneau 1B MIN
                            4-1 Todd Helton 1B COL

                            5-1 Heath Bell RP SD
                            5-2 Derek Jeter SS NYY
                            5-3 Nick Markakis OF BAL
                            5-4 Garrett Atkins 3B COL
                            5-5 Eric Byrnes OF ARI
                            5-6 John Lackey SP LAA
                            5-7 Russell Martin C LAD
                            5-8 Manny Ramirez OF BOS
                            5-9 Michael Young SS TEX
                            5-10 Brian Roberts 2B BAL
                            5-11 Chone Figgins 3B ANH
                            5-12 Carlos Guillen 1B/SS DET

                            6-12 John Smoltz SP ATL
                            6-11 Justin Verlander SP DET
                            6-10 Aaron Harang SP CIN
                            6-9 Joe Mauer C MIN
                            6-8 Scott Kazmir SP TB
                            6-7 Derrek Lee 1B CHC
                            6-6 Torii Hunter OF LAA
                            6-5 Hunter Pence OF Hou
                            6-4 Chris Young SP SDP
                            6-3 Corey Hart OF MIL
                            6-3
                            6-1

                            7-1
                            <Reverend> IRC is just multiplayer notepad.
                            I like your SNOOPY POSTER! - While you Wait quote.

                            Comment


                            • 1) EPW
                              2) EmpFab
                              3) Snoopy
                              4) Jdd
                              5) Ramsey
                              6) SlowwHand
                              7) Guynemer
                              8) Fistandantilus
                              9) Ninot
                              10) Stuie
                              11) Imran
                              12) Berzerker

                              1-1 Alex Rodriguez 3B NYY
                              1-2 Johan Santana SP NYM
                              1-3 David Wright 3B NYM
                              1-4 Hanley Ramirez SS FLA
                              1-5 Albert Pujols 1B STL
                              1-6 Matt Holliday OF COL
                              1-7 Miguel Cabrera 3B DET
                              1-8 Jose Reyes SS NYM
                              1-9 David Ortiz 1B BOS
                              1-10 Jimmy Rollins SS PHI
                              1-11 Chase Utley 2B PHI
                              1-12 Ryan Braun 3B MIL

                              2-12 Jake Peavy SP SD
                              2-11 Alfonso Soriano OF CHC
                              2-10 Ryan Howard 1B PHI
                              2-9 Vladimir Guerrero OF LAA
                              2-8 Prince Fielder 1B MIL
                              2-7 Carlos Beltran OF NYM
                              2-6 Brandon Phillips 2B CIN
                              2-5 Carlos Lee OF HOU
                              2-4 Grady Sizemore OF CLE
                              2-3 Eric Bedard SP SEA
                              2-2 Ichiro Suzuki OF SEA
                              2-1 Magglio Ordonez OF DET

                              3-1 Brandon Webb SP ARI
                              3-2 Carl Crawford OF TB
                              3-3 Victor Martinez C CLE
                              3-4 Adam Dunn OF CIN
                              3-5 Josh Beckett SP BOS
                              3-6 Mark Teixeira 1B ATL
                              3-7 Curtis Granderson OF DET
                              3-8 Aramis Ramirez 3B CHC
                              3-9 Chipper Jones 3B ATL
                              3-10 Bobby Abreu OF NYY
                              3-11 Troy Tulowitzki SS COL
                              3-12 BJ Upton 2B/OF TB

                              4-12 Lance Berkman 1B/OF HOU
                              4-11 Carlos Pena 1B TB
                              4-10 Mike Lowell 3B BOS
                              4-9 C.C.Sabathia SP CLE
                              4-8 Jonathan Papelbon RP BOS
                              4-7 Dan Haren SP ARI
                              4-6 Alex Rios OF TOR
                              4-5 J.J Putz RP SEA
                              4-4 Robinson Cano 2B NYY
                              4-3 Cole Hamels SP PHI
                              4-2 Justin Morneau 1B MIN
                              4-1 Todd Helton 1B COL

                              5-1 Heath Bell RP SD
                              5-2 Derek Jeter SS NYY
                              5-3 Nick Markakis OF BAL
                              5-4 Garrett Atkins 3B COL
                              5-5 Eric Byrnes OF ARI
                              5-6 John Lackey SP LAA
                              5-7 Russell Martin C LAD
                              5-8 Manny Ramirez OF BOS
                              5-9 Michael Young SS TEX
                              5-10 Brian Roberts 2B BAL
                              5-11 Chone Figgins 3B ANH
                              5-12 Carlos Guillen 1B/SS DET

                              6-12 John Smoltz SP ATL
                              6-11 Justin Verlander SP DET
                              6-10 Aaron Harang SP CIN
                              6-9 Joe Mauer C MIN
                              6-8 Scott Kazmir SP TB
                              6-7 Derrek Lee 1B CHC
                              6-6 Torii Hunter OF LAA
                              6-5 Hunter Pence OF Hou
                              6-4 Chris Young SP SDP
                              6-3 Corey Hart OF MIL
                              6-2 Ian Kinsler 2B TEX
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                              pm sent to EPW and I have picks from Snoopy and EmpFab
                              Last edited by Berzerker; March 8, 2008, 01:17.

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                              • Originally posted by snoopy369
                                Harang is probably the better pitcher for this format. Better K/BB, better K/9, similar ERA, better WHIP... wins don't matter, so the DET boost doesn't help Verlander. I'd choose Harang probably as the 7th best pitcher out there - ahead of several (including Verlander) that went before him.
                                I'm hoping that Verlander improves his numbers as he gets older (he'll be 25 this year).
                                “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                                - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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