Rugby - Hands Off Green!

[finbar]

Joe Roff couldn't lift Oxford to a win. Lord knows when he last played. Or trained. Reads like it was a dire, dire match.

[Havak]

The varsity games often are. If you want excitement watching a University level game then Loughborough Students are a better bet.

[ravagon]

Originally posted by finbar
Wonder whether F. Bacon's been near any streams in Suffolk recently.

I don't recall any news reports mentioning any streams ...

So at a time that Jonno was leading an England side with some truly great players in it that was performing superbly well not only was Clive taking all the credit as coach

As opposed to the present time you mean, with an England side who has lost many of those great players, and is underperforming woefully solely due to the deficiencies of their (former) coach Andy Robinson?

[finbar]

Originally posted by ravagon


I don't recall any news reports mentioning any streams ...

That's because you live at the other - which is to say, wrong - end of the world. That part of the world so accurately described by the much-missed P. Keating as "the a*se-end of the world". If you lived closer to the real world, you'd get the reference. As Havak did. Move! Before it's too late!

As opposed to the present time you mean, with an England side who has lost many of those great players, and is underperforming woefully solely due to the deficiencies of their (former) coach Andy Robinson?

That's exactly what he meant.

Anyway. Back to the Suffolk streams. How long before F. Bacon is wishing C. Woodward were in a Suffolk stream?

[Havak]

As opposed to the present time you mean, with an England side who has lost many of those great players, and is underperforming woefully solely due to the deficiencies of their (former) coach Andy Robinson?

I can hardly deny you your enjoyment of our predicament – rhetorical question though that is.

The point that Baron thinks he has nothing to answer for despite the monumental mess ups of the last three years is a very valid one.

How long before F. Bacon is wishing C. Woodward were in a Suffolk stream?

Not long I suspect. We know that Clive is somewhat egocentric and certainly blind to his own faults – but when he speaks the media still lap it up and when what he is saying is in line with the prevailing mood of the fan base then Mr Baron is not going to be comfortable with it.

I’ll nail the Suffolk thing for Ravagon. Suffolk is a county rightfully well known in England for the quality of the ales that come from it’s many small breweries. The County town of Suffolk is Ipswich – a fairly unremarkable town in many ways.

Just at the moment Ipswich is holding the attention of the whole UK because a serial killer is operating – the bodies of five prostitutes having been discovered this month in and around the town.

[finbar]

The first couple found in a local stream.

[Havak]

Yep. There hasn't been too much else on the national news for the last few days.

Clive really did launch another barrage didn't he? But for Baron to claim that Clive doesn't understand how rugby is run now is a pathetic thing to say - who is he kidding?

[finbar]

F. Bacon's clearly an idiot. And I remember them saying such lovey-dovey things about each other when Clive left. To the effect that they were friends, they went out to dinner together with their respective wives. Wonder if the wives still dine together? But Clive's twist of the knife with the fitness coach was a treat. Effectively saying: (1) you sacked him unnecessarily; and (2) he's been telling me everything that's been going on behind the scenes for the last couple of years.

[ravagon]

Originally posted by Havak

Just at the moment Ipswich is holding the attention of the whole UK because a serial killer is operating – the bodies of five prostitutes having been discovered this month in and around the town.

Yes, this bit they covered.

The first couple found in a local stream.

This bit they didn't.
Hence my concern over what Mr finbar had been up to lately.

The point that Baron thinks he has nothing to answer for despite the monumental mess ups of the last three years is a very valid one.

This much I can accept, however the near-complete exoneration of your grand poobah of elite rugby seems a bit of a stretch.
He doesn't seem to be copping too much flak (publically anyway)?
Maybe this has something to do with his (relatively) short tenure to date but I can't see this lasting.

[finbar]

If you're talking about R. Andrew - who looks like a supreme w*nker in those specs - he's only been in the job for a wee while. My impression, though, is that he's very fond of mumbo jumbo biz speak. We shall see how he develops. Havak already hates him for typically very sound, logical reasons. As do I, mainly because he once kicked a couple of drop goals out of his arse. He's obviously already nominated a replacement for A. Robinson. We shall see.

Oh, and I wouldn't be caught dead in Suffolk. Unlike half a dozen poor unfortunate lasses.

[Havak]

My logical sound reasons being that he was the whining goit who coached Newcastle Falcons for nearly a decade.

Andrew is an employee of the RFU Ravagon (Director of Elite Rugby - ha ha!) and Baron the head of the RFU management effectively (official title is Chairman I believe - Martyn Thomas operates as Chief Executive reporting to him).

Baron is copping plenty of flak in the grounds at all levels - his "I did (and by inference am doing) a really good job" line is not winning many friends. Consensus seems to be Andrew is still in his honeymoon period with the fans - that will change rapidly if the 6N goes pear shaped again.

And yes Finbar Clive's twist of the knife over Dave Reddin was most enjoyable.

All this talk of Suffolk is making me thirsty - I had an Adnams Broadside at lunch and now feel the calling of a Greene King Abbot Ale after work...

[LDiCesare]

thirsty - I had an Adnams Broadside at lunch and now feel the calling of a Greene King Abbot Ale after wor

Duh! Do like me. Driunk 3 pints of Guinness before the week-end starts. I couldn't even watch the Castres- Perpignan match at the pub, my wife called for me to go back home...

[finbar]

Husband-abuse knows no boundaries! OTOH, the scoreline suggests a pretty crap match. Maybe she saved you from a monstrous hangover.

[finbar]

Having now, thanks to eagle-eye LdiC, tracked down our thread, I'm forced to re-post this:

Typical of our much missed, much lamented grenouille poster - who specialised in s - to nick off months and months before a bunch of second-rate Taffys put his beloved team to the sword a couple of weeks in a row. Who knew he was prescient?

[finbar]

So the BBC dogs are barking Brian Ashton.