How many DLs would we need to set up a decent debate?

[BeBMan]

Very important public multi poll...if you're bored

[Thoth]

We need Wiglaf for a proper mass debate.

[N35t0r]

Yes

[BeBMan]

We need Wiglaf for a proper mass debate.

But only RealWiglaf which uses

[BeBMan]

I'm just going to talk to myself now. Serb does it all the time

[Thoth]

I'm mildly surprised that both the Serb and Moby bots are still posting after the Ukranian strikes on the Russian data centres.

[BeBMan]

Next important poll will be how many MobySerbs do you need to change a light bulb

[I AM MOBIUS]

The thing you f*ckheads are too simple to grasp, is that I'm the one who's actually pro-Ukrainian is in this sorry mess 🙄

The reason why you fail to grasp it, is that I'm anti-stupidity. That's why it sails so far over your heads that you actually interpret it in the opposite manner...

Just like when I criticise American stupidity, I'm somehow anti-American etc. It's a curious phenomenon... 🤷

I can only liken it to stupidity banding together to defend its own 🙄

[N35t0r]

At least you keep us entertained

[Thoth]

Moby is as pro-Ukrainian as Neville Chamerlain was pro-Czechoslovakia.

[N35t0r]

Moby is as pro-Ukrainian as Neville Chamerlain was pro-Czechoslovakia.

At least Chamberlain pushed for rearmament. Moby probably thinks the Baltic states being in NATO is also unfair to daddy Vlad and should be kicked out of the alliance next.

[Geronimo]

I suspect warning signs of a serious incursion against the Baltics will begin with an increase in complaints about hindered traffic between Kaliningrad and the rest of Russia and would be followed by increased complaints of persecution of Russian speakers in the baltics. I'm sure Putin already believes that if any NATO member invokes article 5 that Trump would formally repudiate the US article 5 obligations. Putin would love that of course and can be expected to seek to provoke that before the end of Trump's term. The only thing preventing it is how badly Ukraine continues to pressure them. I don't think Putin is convinced he would probably get a non WMD "victory" against NATO (even without the US helping NATO) so long as Ukraine is successfully contesting his special military operation there. If you love Europe (or hate a broken NATO formally at war with Russia while the US sits on the sidelines) you need to shore up Ukraine.

Also if you're thinking that Putin might do it without beating Ukraine because he reasons that Trump would actually not just sit it out but would take Russia's side materially, forget it. Putin would be far too paranoid to stake any decision on his expectations of help from an outside power.

I bet Putin is pinning his hopes on a breakup of EU solidarity through political change to win the war against Ukraine through its isolation. He will become desperate to defeat Ukraine before Trump's term to allow a breakup of NATO so I wonder what his plan "B" will be if an end of EU support for Ukraine doesn't materialize before then?

[BeBMan]

At least Chamberlain pushed for rearmament. Moby probably thinks the Baltic states being in NATO is also unfair to daddy Vlad and should be kicked out of the alliance next.

Chamberlain saved peace in our/his time. That time just ended ca. a year later

But now we have Donnie making peace everywhere, by sending the dynamic Witkoff/Kushner duo around, who have accumulated centuries of foreign policy experience (errrm).

[Bereta_Eder]

I bet Putin is pinning his hopes on a breakup of EU solidarity through political change to win the war against Ukraine through its isolation.

You can immideately tell which politician is serious and which is a clown just by the stance he gets on the things that happen in France

The orange waste of space said it was the immigrants (some may be immigrants but that is a social unrest. if you knew france you'd understand) and he OPNELY SUPPORTED LEPEN!

Even bebro shoudl say that the current US admin is on par with putin. they are the same.


ANd you have the president of France himself saying that this is a genuine civil unrest.

and I was listeing to mmeloni. what an nforgivable extreme right wing icapable clown. the things she said about the unrest in italy is hilarious and co,pletely ineffective and out of touch of reality. it's like having a tooth ache and someone kicks you in the balls because he things it will solve your problem


the EU continues to be rather unitied and will remain so despite the current US admin, despite putin, despite my cat. I don't habve one but if I did maybe she's pray for EU disolvement.


now the fiance is pinned down and going forth.

The common EU army... I don't know. Is the US coming back from that charade? If not then sure let's go alone. but the previous world order worked i think.

at least there were no wars (more or less)

[Thoth]

At least Chamberlain pushed for rearmament. Moby probably thinks the Baltic states being in NATO is also unfair to daddy Vlad and should be kicked out of the alliance next.

It really isn't fair to Vlad that his neighbours keep joining defensive alliances. How is he supposed to restore the Soviet Empire to it's former glory if he can't steal his neighbours land?