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  • Is Trump more in the Epstein Files than Putin is in the Panama Papers?

    Just trying to get a sense of scale here
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    Yes. I sense both Putin and tRump have scales. Putin has a more human-like mask.
    There's nothing wrong with the dream, my friend, the problem lies with the dreamer.

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      I can't conceive what species he must be underneath...

  • #3
    Trump and Musk are at it again:

    The US president suggests the cost-cutting agency the tech titan helped set up could be used against him.


    There goes my hope they'll mate and create the Kwisatz Haderach
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    • #4
      "Today, the America Party is formed to give you back your freedom."
      The world's richest man says he is setting up a new political organisation called the America Party.


      Always wondered why Trump talks lotsa "greatness", but little "freedom".

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      • #5
        We already have the American Party. We don't need the America Party too. What we need is a Freedom American Party. I'm going to the FAP caucus.

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        • #6
          Donald Trump is the most litigious person I can think of. If his feelings are hurt, he sued, then settled... Why isn't he suing Musk? Musk had his team access all DOJ files... Does Trump think Musk found something damning?
          There's nothing wrong with the dream, my friend, the problem lies with the dreamer.

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          • #7
            Putin is not in the Panama Papers because he always used a proxy. Therefore, Trump wins this one by default since there is no way that Trump would have sex by proxy.
            “It is no use trying to 'see through' first principles. If you see through everything, then everything is transparent. But a wholly transparent world is an invisible world. To 'see through' all things is the same as not to see.”

            ― C.S. Lewis, The Abolition of Man

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            • #8
              There's plenty of damning stuff about Trump out there, and it's directly from Epstein. They were close friends for over 10 yrs, and Epstein did extensive audio interviews with author Michael Wolff.

              Also, what's all this Trump BS trying to tie Epstein investigations to Obama and the dems? That simply did not happen. He really is just a serial liar, no care about historical reality. Frankly, he sounds a bit desperate.

              Fun facts: Original federal investigation of Epstein was 2006 (under GW Bush). Next federal investigation was in 2017 under President Trump. Bill Barr was Atty Genl for that. Epstein's arrest and death? 2019 under -- yeah, Trump.
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              • #9
                Ghislaine Maxwell has offered to testify under oath to Congress, and been rebuffed.
                The GOP really don't want to hear her testimony... I wonder why?
                There's nothing wrong with the dream, my friend, the problem lies with the dreamer.

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                • #10
                  Originally posted by -Jrabbit View Post
                  There's plenty of damning stuff about Trump out there, and it's directly from Epstein. They were close friends for over 10 yrs, and Epstein did extensive audio interviews with author Michael Wolff.

                  Also, what's all this Trump BS trying to tie Epstein investigations to Obama and the dems? That simply did not happen. He really is just a serial liar, no care about historical reality. Frankly, he sounds a bit desperate.

                  Fun facts: Original federal investigation of Epstein was 2006 (under GW Bush). Next federal investigation was in 2017 under President Trump. Bill Barr was Atty Genl for that. Epstein's arrest and death? 2019 under -- yeah, Trump.
                  I need help understanding.

                  If there were evidence in the possession of law enforcement, and showed damning evidence for Trump, what stopped it being “leaked” to damage his election in 2024?

                  Not a loaded question, I’m trying to understand what downside there would be for team Biden/Harris if such material was in their knowledge and was damning enough to arrange its release somehow.

                  i can think of speculative scenarios (eg collateral damage / friendly fire), but want to know what the conventional wisdom is here.
                  One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.

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                  • #11
                    Above what is out there, of course.
                    One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.

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                    • #12
                      Originally posted by Dauphin View Post

                      I need help understanding.

                      If there were evidence in the possession of law enforcement, and showed damning evidence for Trump, what stopped it being “leaked” to damage his election in 2024?

                      Not a loaded question, I’m trying to understand what downside there would be for team Biden/Harris if such material was in their knowledge and was damning enough to arrange its release somehow.

                      i can think of speculative scenarios (eg collateral damage / friendly fire), but want to know what the conventional wisdom is here.
                      Its all one big scam. Rs and D's need a balance, to take turns at the helm, or the whole false dichotomy falls apart.

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                      • #13
                        Originally posted by Dauphin View Post

                        I need help understanding.

                        If there were evidence in the possession of law enforcement, and showed damning evidence for Trump, what stopped it being “leaked” to damage his election in 2024?

                        Not a loaded question, I’m trying to understand what downside there would be for team Biden/Harris if such material was in their knowledge and was damning enough to arrange its release somehow.

                        i can think of speculative scenarios (eg collateral damage / friendly fire), but want to know what the conventional wisdom is here.
                        I don't know if there is conventional wisdom here. I imagine releasing the files would hit a substantial number of influential people while not hurting Trump that much. We already know he's a sexual predator, got those words out of his own mouth prior to the '16 election. The "of kids" part is of course far worse, but the fellow is remarkably Teflon. And leaking less than the complete files would, I imagine, immediately turn the conversation into a debate over the authenticity of the leaks and conspiracy theories about how Trump's name was put in in place of Joe Biden's or something. Actually that would happen even if you leaked the full files, or for that matter if you officially released them with a big FBI press conference (which might violate some/many laws, not a lawyer). So really none of this matters, except insofar as people on one side of the aisle or the other can give each other high-fives. And both will do that regardless of what is released, or not released. Everybody wins!
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                        • #14
                          It's pretty insulting that Trump is just straight-up lying about Dem involvement in the the Epstein case, as if we don't have a full interwebs record of when things happened and under whose presidency.
                          He's now doing the same thing with Fed chief Jerome Powell, who was appointed BY TRUMP in 2017. Yet today, he claims that it was Biden who installed him.

                          Frankly, the media is doing a terrible job of basic fact-checking and reporting. Which is clearly what the Donald is banking on.

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                          • #15
                            Trump lies about EVERYTHING or just makes stuff up... knowing his brain dead cult will believe anything he says.
                            There is a reason why the bulk of Maga are the lesser educated.
                            Keep on Civin'
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