So, suckers...

[BlackCat]

As I understand it: America as a whole kinda forgot Ukraine was a thing (I can't believe it's already been almost two years), and there's argument about whether to keep sending it munitions to kill Russians with, especially since that's getting tied up in quid-pro-quo deals for funding bombs for Israel.

​Uhmn, Israel isn't in any dire need - they are fighting a terrorist group, not an enemy country. Sure, they probably like to refresh their munition depots, but that they can do for themself without any problem.

And we're kinda getting nervous, again, about the debt and the deficit and stuff.

Wut ??? Such a thing has never been seen as a problem in USA.

Also Ukraine is getting tired of fighting and I think they're running out of people to fight with?

I'm a bit curious about what sources you have for this - that is usually stated by the russian MOD and isn't really a fact. Ukrainians are generally quite pissed at the russians and get even more when new missile attacks are made. And no, they aren't running out of people - the average age in their army is ~40 years, which might sound high, but many of them has gained experience in the russian invasion in 2014+ so they still have some 3-4 mill potentials - if you put women into that, double it.

[N35t0r]

Wut ??? Such a thing has never been seen as a problem in USA.

The Republicans love to make noise about it whenever there's a Democratic president.

[Berzerker]

Indeed, they're in love with war when a Republican starts them

[BlackCat]

The Republicans love to make noise about it whenever there's a Democratic president.

Ah, that make sense - when they are in the opposition they are the protectors of the good shepherds - when they get to power they forget that and f*ing both shepherds and whatever stock they might have - fun thing is that they apparently like that treatment

[Bereta_Eder]

As I understand it: America as a whole kinda forgot Ukraine was a thing (I can't believe it's already been almost two years), and there's argument about whether to keep sending it munitions to kill Russians with, especially since that's getting tied up in quid-pro-quo deals for funding bombs for Israel. And we're kinda getting nervous, again, about the debt and the deficit and stuff. Also Ukraine is getting tired of fighting and I think they're running out of people to fight with? I think I heard that they have demographic problems not unlike Russia's but they have smaller absolute numbers so that's an issue. Anyway, the upshot, as I understand it, is that Putin is likely to hold onto Crimea (which he already had) plus chunks of the east. This is after killing 100K of his own men and wrecking a lot of their stuff, plus incurring sanctions, plus Finland joined NATO, plus it seems a lot of Russians fled the country which will worsen their demographic issue even more than all those dead young men, plus he's unlikely to get the same use out of those provinces that Ukraine would have because they'll probably see years of terrorism/insurgency/basically the same crap Israel has to put up with all the time. In terms of cash and blood, those chunks of Ukraine will probably be "in the red" for years to come.

Congratulations, Mr. Putin.

Ukraine is destroyed for generations. No question about it.
Unless there is pace then it can be reblt in 10 years max.

But Russia has gone so much down the rabbit hole it is almost unrecognizeble now


take a gypsy (sorry roma) make him proud of his country, that's russia


it's silly funny whatever

the russians did it so all is well

but we are talking gypsy like aesthetics here


Usa is the same albeit slightly better because of fring coprorate "democracy"


but russia is gone

[Berzerker]

the walls are closing in

[PLATO]

Dead American soldiers in Ukraine: 0
Dead Russian soldiers in Ukraine: 300,000+

USA gets it’s ass kicked again…sigh

[BlackCat]

the walls are closing in

Just take your medics and the walls won't move

[Geronimo]

Nice to see Elok here again

[Berzerker]

Yes, that was Lindsey's argument... Best spent $$$. Russia has mobilized while Nato runs low on ammo and we've forced a Russian-Chinese alliance with the latter leading Brics while playing peacemaker in several wars. China is making the case for world leader and our constant warmongering, sanctions, and bullying is why. This has produced cracks in Nato as China makes its presence felt. The US cant use Nato on China, they'll buy our friends, they're already doing it in South America, Africa and the Middle East. Maybe using Ukraine for cannon fodder was unwise. It was a major bulwark vs Asia if the sit ever hit the fan. Should have enforced Minsk and let Ukraine grow economically.

[Ming]

Gee... it's Putin's INVASION of another country is what has made Ukraine cannon fodder FOR RUSSIA.
But feel free to attempt yet again to paint Putin as the Savior and Hero of all the people his troops are killing just so he can add more land to his empire.

[Berzerker]

Putin invaded in 2014... why did he leave? Minsk. In 2019 Z got elected and tried to end the war. He was chased away by Azov because they were at war with protesters. So after all that, nearly a decade of the US arming Nazis to kill Ukrainians along the Russian border Putin responded. Like I said, I'm happy letting the people attacked by Nazis choose their heroes. Are you? I dont think they will have a high opinion of the Banderites we've been backing.

[Ming]

Yep... Putin responded by attempting to steal even more land. His first invasion had been illegal, and so was the second.
Again... he was killing the people you claim he was helping. What a great hero he is. Oh, and he destroyed their towns and lives, while the women were being raped. What a guy.

[Serb]

Gee... it's Putin's INVASION of another country is what has made Ukraine cannon fodder FOR RUSSIA.
But feel free to attempt yet again to paint Putin as the Savior and Hero of all the people his troops are killing just so he can add more land to his empire.

It is you who had started the bloodbath in 2014, not us!

We have signed a ceasefire trety you never wanted to fulfill (and admitted that themselves).

So, STFU! And keep your lies for a zombies like you!

[Serb]

Yep... Putin responded by attempting to steal even more land. His first invasion had been illegal, and so was the second.
Again... he was killing the people you claim he was helping. What a great hero he is. Oh, and he destroyed their towns and lives, while the women were being raped. What a guy.

So, according to you, the overthrow of the legal, legitimized government is absolutely ok?

Killing tens of thousands of the people who had refused to accept your Nazi coup is absolutely ok?

Russia by giving you 8 years to solve the conflict peacfully and after you have lied to do so, and Russia by protecting Russians, when we had a limit break - is a Devil?

Who the hell do you think you are?

A one cell imbecile ameba without any understanding about the cause and the consequences?

In other words - a brainwashed zombie?​
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[Serb]

For your information (FYI - I'll keep another version of translation to myself):

a) After 8 years of Ukraine do not fulfilling the Minsk agreemets, being supplied and armed by the West, they have decided to solve the Donbass crisis by force and have started an intense shelling of the cities, preparing to invade.
b) After that, Russia had recognised the inpedendance of Donetsk People Republic and Lugansk Peple Republic.
c) After that, Russia have signed a mutal protection pact with them.
d) And after another Ukranianan attack on DPR and LPR, Russia have entered the war on their side!

That was pretty ... legal in accordance with the international law!

We are not like you, the buthchers of Vietnam, Serbia, Afghanistan, Lybia, Syria!​