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[Berzerker]

Former British ambassador Alastair Crooke said Osama bin Laden was living on a Pakistani military compound under arrest and they let us Epstein him. He's also suspicious about other players (govts) being involved with the planning. I'll have to double check the recent news I heard but at least one of the hijackers had been recruited by the CIA. I suspect that was an effort to infiltrate a terrorist group that backfired. But now that the CIA has been caught lying about covid's origin they obviously have no credibility and should be dismantled.

Guess who repealed a regulation restricting the CIAs ability to lie to Americans. The govt lied to us about OBL's death so the Pakistani govt would have an alibi, but who would believe they didn't look the other way as we crashed a chopper outside their prison. Must have been bedtime. Hollywood gave us the CIAs version of events. Presenting the Oscar for best performance is Jon Stewart... and the Oscar goes to... Barack Obama... Accepting the award will be Barack's good friends fighting the good fight against evil, ISIS and Azov.

​​​​​​https://youtu.be/Kd7Suf1-gwI

democracy lol

[PLATO]

But now that the CIA has been caught lying about covid's origin they obviously have no credibility and should be dismantled.

Of course...we will be just fine with NO intelligence on what our adversaries are up to. Another brilliant idea Berz.

[BeBMan]

But now that the CIA has been caught lying about covid's origin they obviously have no credibility and should be dismantled.

Feels familiar Berz?

[-Jrabbit]

Hmm. So Berz, known for his consistent distrust of the news media, says "I'll have to double check the recent news" about OBL's death over 12 years ago, then tries to link it to a Covid conspiracy theory as an excuse to eliminate an entire primary U.S. intelligence agency.

And Alastair Crooke has no more credibility than Christopher Steele. Crooke makes frequent appearances on Hezbollah-affiliated Al Mayadeen television network, where he vocally defended the policies of Russian president Vladimir Putin re Ukraine, and accused NATO of desiring to escalate the conflict.​

So yeah, that tracks.

[Berzerker]

I have to double check the recent news about the CIA recruiting one of the hijackers, not Crooke's claim about OBL's death. You know, it does kinda make sense that the Pakistanis let us kill OBL. Crooke accused Nato of wanting to escalate the war... And you think this discredits him? Nato has been escalating the war for a decade or more. I dont know what covid conspiracy you're talking about, the CIA got caught recently paying analysts to change their assessment of covid's origin. Wouldn't the conspiracy be the wet market?

[Stantroll]

RIP

[Berzerker]

Of course...we will be just fine with NO intelligence on what our adversaries are up to. Another brilliant idea Berz.

They lie to us and rig our elections and they are why we have the blood of millions on our hands. Here's an idea, dont have adversaries.

[PLATO]

They lie to us and rig our elections and they are why we have the blood of millions on our hands. Here's an idea, dont have adversaries.

I would think that, in part, would have to do with our adversaries wanting us as adversaries. You can't, even with your imagination, assume that we are the only "evil" ones out there, can you?

[Geronimo]

I would think that, in part, would have to do with our adversaries wanting us as adversaries. You can't, even with your imagination, assume that we are the only "evil" ones out there, can you?

When AQ attacked the US on 11-09-2001 it was part of their appalling plan to provoke the US into a war that AQ would exploit to establish a new caliphate leading a vast jihad against the infidel. Bush certainly obliged them but their muslim brothers did not. It is apt indeed to say that in that case at least our adversaries wanted us as adversaries indeed.

[Donegeal]

According to some theories in quantum physics you have a chance of running head first into a wall and just appearing on the other side. I know it's only a (very and extremely) small chance, but since there's a chance, it MUST be true. Go try it Berz.

This is the logic you're using Berz. If there's a chance it could be true, it MUST to be true.

[Berzerker]

I would think that, in part, would have to do with our adversaries wanting us as adversaries. You can't, even with your imagination, assume that we are the only "evil" ones out there, can you?

I dont see Russia and China as adversaries, I see them pissed off at American neocons trying to rule the world and the rise of brics in response. I cant think of any other country with more blood on its hands the last 3-4 decades, would you care to nominate a greater evil?

[Geronimo]

In what way is Brics "rising"?

[Berzerker]

I didn't say it was rising, I said it rose in response to the US neocons trying to run the world

[N35t0r]

So the US pushes for increased trade, and a group of big countries makes a group to try and improve trade among them. I would guess the US has been very effective if they have that much influence.

[PLATO]

I dont see Russia and China as adversaries, I see them pissed off at American neocons trying to rule the world and the rise of brics in response. I cant think of any other country with more blood on its hands the last 3-4 decades, would you care to nominate a greater evil?

Of course...they have no interest in things like nine-dashed (or now 10 dashed?) lines and "spheres of influence". If it wasn't for us they would be sooooo peace loving.

You really do have a myopic view of things Berz. The U.S. may be a power seeker, but it is hardly alone in that. Not to mention that both Russia and China are very famous for seriously abusing their own people. They are not "nice guys" who are only reacting to us. Far from it imo...without us, they would be very much expanding their oppressive regimes.

[PLATO]

I dont see Russia and China as adversaries, I see them pissed off at American neocons trying to rule the world and the rise of brics in response. I cant think of any other country with more blood on its hands the last 3-4 decades, would you care to nominate a greater evil?

Let me nominate a few:

1.) Syria...where the regime uses power drills to drill into civilians skulls as a form of interrogation
2.) China...where forced sterilization and internment of an entire people is happening before the worlds eyes.
3.) Russia...where summary execution, rape and torture are a means of occupation
4.) Afghanistan...where women are executed for going out without wearing burkahs or if not accompanied by a male
5.) North Korea...where millions have been starved to death because the country wants the money to feed them to be used on weapons of mass destruction

Interesting how all of these candidates for a "greater evil" are who the U.S. considers adversaries...but YOU say we are the bad guys. You really should take another look at your world view.