Politics Thread

[Berzerker]

Bill Binney spent decades working for the USA becoming one of its top experts in his field but just like that you've turned him into Putin's puppet.

[pchang]

I’m sure Bill Binney is at least as independent as Hubert Seipel.

[-Jrabbit]

Oh, well, if a favorite RT guest like 80 year-old Bill Binney "looked into it"... shocking to hear his "theory" exonerates Russia.

[Berzerker]

Assange supposedly said this purely through republican congressman Dana Rohrabacher. Normally I might give a congressman the initial benefit of the doubt except that in this case Assange has had plenty of opportunity to corroborate this through his lawyer or subsequent visits by others and so far they all report that Assange swears this is a lie. Hell Assange's lawyer in fact reports that on behalf of Trump, Dana Rohbachrer supposedly offered Assange a presidential pardon from Trump if Assange would claim Russia was uninvolved. He reports Assange rejected the offer.

So this juicy tidbit is totally worthless. Why do you keep giving credence to things that all involved parties are on record as recognizing as false and which, if true, would have had plenty of opportunity to be attested by others?

You're confusing two efforts to have Assange speak

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-ho...immunity-deal/

"Not included in the written proffer was an additional offer from Assange: He was willing to discuss technical evidence ruling out certain parties in the controversial leak of Democratic Party emails to WikiLeaks during the 2016 election. The U.S. government believes those emails were hacked by Russia; Assange insists they did not come from Moscow.

“Mr. Assange offered to provide technical evidence and discussion regarding who did not engage in the DNC releases,” Waldman told me. “Finally, he offered his technical expertise to the U.S. government to help address what he perceived as clear flaws in security systems that led to the loss of the U.S. cyber weapons program.”

Not many people actually wanted to see his evidence exonerating Russia, but Bill Binney looked into the leak and he's convinced it was a thumb drive taken from the premise and not a hack

[pchang]

Republicans are bringing back “trial by combat”!

[pchang]

If the little mustache fits, wear it.

[Geronimo]

I wish we knew how she would implement this. I'd probably welcome the results if constitutional but I think it's not worth the headwinds she will gain from this.

[Berzerker]

Nikki Haley says if she is elected president social media users will have to identify themselves and be verified... national security, those Russian, Iranian and Chinese (axis of evil?) bots are a threat

[Dauphin]

I think the desire to remove them is implied by the choice of epithet.

[Ming]

Calling them vermin is one thing... but saying he wants to remove all the vermin is the real problem

[Dauphin]

Is it worse for trump to compare his opponents to "vermin" or to all of his opponents to compare him to Adolf Hitler?

The former, because there are people who actually pay attention to his words.

[Jon Miller]

It depends, are there ways that Trump's opponents are acting like vermin or that Trump is acting like Adolf Hitler?

JM
(Have all of Trump's opponents compared him to Adolf Hitler? If so... what does that say about him? )

[Geronimo]

Is it worse for trump to compare his opponents to "vermin" or to all of his opponents to compare him to Adolf Hitler?

[BeBMan]

Trump uses Nazi terminology, painting folks he doesn't like as vermin. Berz alarmed.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-compares-political-opponents-vermin-root-alarming-historians/story?id=104847748

[Geronimo]

https://youtu.be/n5LfhoPJ3tw

Julian Assange was willing to testify under oath and provide technical data showing Russia didn't hack the DNC emails. James Comey allegedly blocked him from testifying.

Assange supposedly said this purely through republican congressman Dana Rohrabacher. Normally I might give a congressman the initial benefit of the doubt except that in this case Assange has had plenty of opportunity to corroborate this through his lawyer or subsequent visits by others and so far they all report that Assange swears this is a lie. Hell Assange's lawyer in fact reports that on behalf of Trump, Dana Rohbachrer supposedly offered Assange a presidential pardon from Trump if Assange would claim Russia was uninvolved. He reports Assange rejected the offer.

So this juicy tidbit is totally worthless. Why do you keep giving credence to things that all involved parties are on record as recognizing as false and which, if true, would have had plenty of opportunity to be attested by others?